Poop The Broncos futility continues

Kerberos · 05:58 AM

I didn't see this posted yesterday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/traini...ohn&id=4418733

Broncos in tough spot with Marshall

If you thought Josh McDaniels was in a tough spot with the Jay Cutler trade, don't look now.

The Brandon Marshall situation might be worse. The trust between Marshall and the Broncos has been broken on both sides. Marshall doesn't trust the trainers; he doesn't trust the organization. On the flip side, the Broncos don't trust him enough to offer him a contract extension. Trading him would set more precedents for players who might want to leave the Broncos.

What the Broncos need is a face-saving angel, a team willing to trade the equivalent of a No. 1 and No. 4 pick to resolve this situation. Watching the Broncos play the Seahawks on Saturday night, I think the Broncos can get by with three- and four-receiver sets that feature Eddie Royal, Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Stokley and Chad Jackson.

That group of receivers might not be tall, but it's solid enough for Kyle Orton, who is going to operate a quick passing offense out of three- and five-step drops. The problem facing the Broncos is that because their defense is suspect, they probably are going to play a lot of shootouts. Orton is good, but I don't see him winning three games in which the defense surrendered 30 or more points, as Cutler did last season.

Plus, starting in Week 4, the Broncos face an eight-game stretch in which it's going to be hard to win many games. From Oct. 4 to Nov. 26, they face Dallas, New England, San Diego, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Washington, San Diego and the Giants. They could lose all eight. Getting value for Marshall, who is in the final year of his contract, is the wise thing to do if McDaniels is going to build the Broncos back into a playoff team.

Marshall would be a great fit on the Ravens or the Jets. If neither team -- or another suitor -- offers a No. 1 and a No. 4, the Broncos will have to keep him, even though his attitude might cause his productivity to drop.

Mile High Mania · 08-25-2009, 04:45 AM

There's no link, unless I'm missing it in the FF browser... but, there's nothing new here. Same ol' stuff about how they have to trade him and how tough the schedule is for two months after week3.

LaChapelle · 08-25-2009, 05:45 AM

:elmer's:

Quesadilla Joe · 08-25-2009, 05:47 AM

We have known all of this stuff since May.

beach tribe · 08-25-2009, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

We have known all of this stuff since May.

It's going to be hilarious watching Orton try to keep up with your opponents without Marshall. Hell it would be funny with him.

Quesadilla Joe · 08-25-2009, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

It's going to be hilarious watching Orton try to keep up with your opponents without Marshall. Hell it would be funny with him.

I'm really not worried about it either way. Eddie Royal, Jabar Gaffney, and Brandon Stokely are all better WR's than anyone Orton has played with in the NFL. We have guys that can step up.

It's not like what would happen to KC if they were dumb enough to trade Tony Gonzal...... wait

Kerberos · 08-25-2009, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I'm really not worried about it either way. Eddie Royal, Jabar Gaffney, and Brandon Stokely are all better WR's than anyone Orton has played with in the NFL. We have guys that can step up.

It's not like what would happen to KC if they were dumb enough to trade Tony Gonzal...... wait

We'll see who's laughing come week 4 when McDUMBASS has no choice but to put Chris Simms in because Aborton sucks so bad.

You could have Moss, Welker, Royal and Stokely and it won't matter with Neckbeard throwing INT's left handed.

Quesadilla Joe · 08-25-2009, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerberos

We'll see who's laughing come week 4 when McDUMBASS has no choice but to put Chris Simms in because Aborton sucks so bad.

You could have Moss, Welker, Royal and Stokely and it won't matter with Neckbeard throwing INT's left handed.

I am not hung up on that left handed pass like Chiefs fans are. Anyone who knows football would know that was a better decision than taking a sack.

Agent V · 08-25-2009, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I'm really not worried about it either way. Eddie Royal, Jabar Gaffney, and Brandon Stokely are all better WR's than anyone Orton has played with in the NFL. We have guys that can step up.

It's not like what would happen to KC if they were dumb enough to trade Tony Gonzal...... wait

What are you laughing about? We traded the best tight end in football with two years left on his career. You traded a franchise quarterback at 26 years old. I don't understand all this shit you sling around on here to defend your team. It baffles me.

Kerberos · 08-25-2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

What are you laughing about? We traded the best tight end in football with two years left on his career. You traded a franchise quarterback at 26 years old. I don't understand all this shit you sling around on here to defend your team. It baffles me.

THIS

Quesadilla Joe · 08-25-2009, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

What are you laughing about? We traded the best tight end in football with two years left on his career. You traded a franchise quarterback at 26 years old. I don't understand all this shit you sling around on here to defend your team. It baffles me.

We traded a QB who makes to many mistakes to take a team anywhere, who was second in the NFL in INT's thrown, and had the worst bad decision percentage of any QB in the NFL.

We got Kyle Orton, who fits perfectly into what Josh McDaniels wants to do... Who should have NO PROBLEM putting up a better QB Rating than the guy he replaced. That trade also let us get Knowshon Moreno, who has been compared to LaDanian Tomlinson by a bunch of people, and was the best RB in the entire draft. We also got Robert Ayers, who Mike Mayock said would be the best defensive player taken in the draft. And we got Alphonso Smith, the best cover corner in the draft, who would have been a top 10 pick if he was 2 inches taller.

I love the trade. We are better team because of that trade.

LaChapelle · 08-25-2009, 06:09 AM

If Orton played with crap in Chicago. Cutler sure does well with it.

Quesadilla Joe · 08-25-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

If Orton played with crap in Chicago. Cutler sure does well with it.

DB's have dropped 4 gimme INT's from Cutler this preseason. If the DB's caught those balls you wouldn't be saying that.

Stinger · 08-25-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

DB's have dropped 4 gimme INT's from Cutler this preseason. If the DB's caught those balls you wouldn't be saying that.

Like the 3 others the DB's have dropped against the Donx? One of them in the end zone against that would have negated a touchdown on the next play. So by your logic we can assume that you think the same of AbOrton, correct.

Quesadilla Joe · 08-25-2009, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinger

Like the 3 others the DB's have dropped against the Donx? One of them in the end zone against that would have negated a touchdown on the next play. So by your logic we can assume that you think the same of AbOrton, correct.

No DB dropped an INT from Orton in the Seattle game. Scheffler broke up a bad pass and wound up catching it.

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Kerberos Chiefs Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Henderson, NV Casino cash: $10000632	The Broncos futility continues I didn't see this posted yesterday. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/traini...ohn&id=4418733 Broncos in tough spot with Marshall If you thought Josh McDaniels was in a tough spot with the Jay Cutler trade, don't look now. The Brandon Marshall situation might be worse. The trust between Marshall and the Broncos has been broken on both sides. Marshall doesn't trust the trainers; he doesn't trust the organization. On the flip side, the Broncos don't trust him enough to offer him a contract extension. Trading him would set more precedents for players who might want to leave the Broncos. What the Broncos need is a face-saving angel, a team willing to trade the equivalent of a No. 1 and No. 4 pick to resolve this situation. Watching the Broncos play the Seahawks on Saturday night, I think the Broncos can get by with three- and four-receiver sets that feature Eddie Royal, Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Stokley and Chad Jackson. That group of receivers might not be tall, but it's solid enough for Kyle Orton, who is going to operate a quick passing offense out of three- and five-step drops. The problem facing the Broncos is that because their defense is suspect, they probably are going to play a lot of shootouts. Orton is good, but I don't see him winning three games in which the defense surrendered 30 or more points, as Cutler did last season. Plus, starting in Week 4, the Broncos face an eight-game stretch in which it's going to be hard to win many games. From Oct. 4 to Nov. 26, they face Dallas, New England, San Diego, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Washington, San Diego and the Giants. They could lose all eight. Getting value for Marshall, who is in the final year of his contract, is the wise thing to do if McDaniels is going to build the Broncos back into a playoff team. Marshall would be a great fit on the Ravens or the Jets. If neither team -- or another suitor -- offers a No. 1 and a No. 4, the Broncos will have to keep him, even though his attitude might cause his productivity to drop. Last edited by Kerberos; 08-25-2009 at 05:58 AM..
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