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Chiefnj · 03-03-2005, 09:30 AM

It is being discussed elsewhere that St. John on 810 this morning said there were issues with Trotter's physical given by KC? Any truth to this from anyone who listens to the show?

tomahawk kid · 03-03-2005, 09:32 AM

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It is being discussed elsewhere that St. John on 810 this morning said there were issues with Trotter's physical given by KC? Any truth to this from anyone who listens to the show?

Just tuned in.

Lamenting about Gay-U right now.

HC_Chief · 03-03-2005, 09:33 AM

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Just tuned in.

Lamenting about Gay-U right now.

Yeah, the tiggers did suck quite a bit of ass last night

tomahawk kid · 03-03-2005, 09:39 AM

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Yeah, the tiggers did suck quite a bit of ass last night

I can't argue with that. My Alma Mater sucks right now.

I can still hate Kansas though.

**Iowanian** · 03-03-2005, 09:32 AM

I'm listening, but didn't hear that.

It might make sense.......beings that Every NFL team that looked at him was nervous about his knee last season.

Hartwell would sure look nice in Red.

eazyb81 · 03-03-2005, 09:34 AM

Hartwell will also probably break the bank. John Clayton said he will be the most expensive LB so i'm not sure we can afford him. Also, with 16 teams supposedly interested in him, it could be a long process to get him signed.

Stinger · 03-03-2005, 09:38 AM

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Also, with 16 teams supposedly interested in him, it could be a long process to get him signed.

Well then it will happen then because CP knows how patient we fans are

tomahawk kid · 03-03-2005, 09:44 AM

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Hartwell will also probably break the bank. John Clayton said he will be the most expensive LB so i'm not sure we can afford him. Also, with 16 teams supposedly interested in him, it could be a long process to get him signed.

If he truly wants to be a Chief, it shouldn't be an issue.

KC CAN"T use the "afford" excuse this year either. We've got 1 more shot at this thing and the FO can't worry about where we're going to be cap-wise in 3 years.

I think its pretty simple here:

If Gun wants Rolle, you find a way to get it done.

If Hartwell wants to be here, you find a way to get it done.

There is no "next year"; no "tommorrow".

I think that our chances of signing these guys drops significantly if they leave KC to visit other teams. They need to get these guys under contract TODAY and move forward from there.

nmt1 · 03-03-2005, 09:51 AM

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We've got 1 more shot at this thing...

Are the Chiefs folding after this season or something?

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...and the FO can't worry about where we're going to be cap-wise in 3 years...

They should and they will.

tomahawk kid · 03-03-2005, 09:57 AM

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They should and they will.

Why should they?

Based on the signing bonus escalations coming in 2006, this team is probably going to look significantly different after 2005 anyway you cut it.

Players like Roaf, Shields, Holmes, Richardson etc. are not getting any younger.

You are already starting to "push it" in terms of this offense maintaining their production at their current level.

You have to do something agressive NOW, in order to make a run at this thing in 2005.

eazyb81 · 03-03-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

If he truly wants to be a Chief, it shouldn't be an issue.

KC CAN"T use the "afford" excuse this year either. We've got 1 more shot at this thing and the FO can't worry about where we're going to be cap-wise in 3 years.

I think its pretty simple here:

If Gun wants Rolle, you find a way to get it done.

If Hartwell wants to be here, you find a way to get it done.

There is no "next year"; no "tommorrow".

I think that our chances of signing these guys drops significantly if they leave KC to visit other teams. They need to get these guys under contract TODAY and move forward from there.

I agree with everything you say, but no matter what we all say this is still a business to Lamar and Carl. They want to get a really good player, but they also don't want to feel like they spent too much. Peterson will sign some free agents but i'm not sure if he will sign the most expensive guys. I would love Hartwell but i'm just not sold that CP will do whatever it takes to get him, and would rather sign Trotter because he will probably cost less.

**ChiTown** · 03-03-2005, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

I'm listening, but didn't hear that.

It might make sense.......beings that Every NFL team that looked at him was nervous about his knee last season.

Hartwell would sure look nice in Red.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft Hartwell in 2001. Dude is a stud and would be the perfect fit for our system. I like Trotter, but we can't afford a "maybe" status with his injuries...........

eazyb81 · 03-03-2005, 09:42 AM

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I wanted the Chiefs to draft Hartwell in 2001. Dude is a stud and would be the perfect fit for our system. I like Trotter, but we can't afford a "maybe" status with his injuries...........

But we will be able to afford his contract when compared to Hartwell....

Don't get me wrong, Trotter would be awesome, but it seems pretty obvious that Hartwell will get the bigger contract.

bkkcoh · 03-03-2005, 09:43 AM

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But we will be able to afford his contract when compared to Hartwell....

Don't get me wrong, Trotter would be awesome, but it seems pretty obvious that Hartwell will get the bigger contract.

But Hartwell's contract may translate into more years with a slightly bigger signing bonus so that would equal out over the life of the contract for salary caps purposes...

htismaqe · 03-03-2005, 09:52 AM

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But Hartwell's contract may translate into more years with a slightly bigger signing bonus so that would equal out over the life of the contract for salary caps purposes...

Any contract over 4-years in length will have the bonus pro-rated as if it were a 4-year deal, due to the CBA expiring.

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