Mike Sweeney appreciation thread

Dr. Johnny Fever · 06-13-2005, 09:03 AM

I'm more than a little tired of listening to people bash Mike Sweeney. He's always hurt, he doesn't slide hard enough into the catcher, he's got an iron glove.... bla, bla, bla... get real.

Mike Sweeney has done nothing to deserve the shit so many so called Royals fans often like to sling his way. These idiots that demand he be traded for prospects, that he's soft, that he isn't the perfect mix of Babe Ruth and Joe DiMaggio. These are the same fans that whine about losing every good player we have to free agency because the Royals can't or won't pay them enough to stay around. The same people who constantly bitch about our "minor league roster" but are more than willing to part with the best player on the team so we can get more minor leaguers.

Listen up folks...and you know who you are. When an opposing pitcher looks over the Royals' line-up, who do you think makes them make any adjustments outside of doing whatever the hell they want to do? Ruben Gotay? Mark Teahen? Terrance Long? David DeJesus? No...Mike Sweeney is the only bone-fide threat in the line-up. Mike Sweeney is the only guy that the opposing team doesn't want at the plate with runners on. Mike Sweeney is the only guy who can make the opposing pitcher sweat a little... just a little.

Mike Sweeney could have bolted KC like so many before him, long ago. He didn't have to sign a contract extension to stay in a small market, on a bad team, with little or no real future playoff aspirations...but he did. All he asked was that his employers do everything they could do to field a winning team for ONE season. He didn't ask for a championship or he's gone. He didn't even demand that the Royals win the weakest division in baseball. He asked that they show the same kind of commitment to winning and dedication to the team for ONE season that he has shown. ONE DAMN SEASON! That's all it took for Sweeney's new contract extension to go into effect. His team met the challenge two years ago, finished over .500 and have done little but back-pedal ever since... but is Mike demanding a trade? No. Instead he's getting in his team-mates faces, leading by example and trying to win.

Sure, Sweeney has had some injury problems. I'm pretty certain that it hasn't been because he WANTS to be injured. I'm reasonably confident that he doesn't feel like his team doesn't need him or that he's just acting like a prima donna who tired of being on the field and wants some time off. No, Mike Sweeney wants to play. He wants to help his team-mates get better. He wants to win...in Kansas City. Not in New York or Boston or LA.... IN KANSAS CITY! HE'S HERE BECAUSE HE CHOOSES TO BE! HE'S THE ONE BONA-FIDE STAR WHO HASN'T USED KC AS AN AUDITION TO GET A BIG FAT PAYCHECK IN A SPOTLIGHT CITY!

Mike Sweeney is a good guy too. Not just a run of the mill good guy... but a really good guy. He's a part of the community. He's a team player. He's the real deal.

No, he isn't the best first baseman in baseball... but he's not the worst either. Yes, his back problems have been frustrating for Royals fan. You think maybe they've been even more frustrating for him though? I imagine his back would give out from time to time carrying the entire franchise on it for so long... then getting shit from fans for how he does it.

Mike Sweeney deserves better. From his front-office, from his team-mates, from mlb as a whole, but mostly from Royals fans who are too busy whinning about his imperfections too see the big picture. Mike Sweeney is the face of a mostly faceless organization. He's done nothing but work hard, play hard and promote Kansas City. He wants nothing more than to win.....HERE. That alone makes him more worthy than any of his recent predecessors of our loyalty and appreciation.

Goapics1 · 06-13-2005, 09:04 AM

He needs traded for some young pitchers.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 06-13-2005, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by apics1

He needs traded for some young pitchers.

I'm gonna guess that you're kidding since young pitchers are the one thing we seem to have an abundance of.

Goapics1 · 06-13-2005, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by beer me

I'm gonna guess that you're kidding since young pitchers are the one thing we seem to have an abundance of.

Nope. Never have enough pitching.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 06-13-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by apics1

Nope. Never have enough pitching.

until you can't score any runs..... (see first 40 games of the season)

Goapics1 · 06-13-2005, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by beer me

until you can't score any runs..... (see first 40 games of the season)

That was an abberation. Gather enough young pitching prospects, then trade some for everyday players. All teams are always looking for pitching. I am not a GM but I play one on TV.

Pitt Gorilla · 06-13-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by beer me

until you can't score any runs..... (see first 40 games of the season)

It seems we've been scoring pretty well without him. Hey, I like his bat in the lineup. But, a guy making that much money shouldn't be striking out on pitches low and away every single game (when he's healthy...)

Demonpenz · 06-13-2005, 09:06 AM

When's the last time sweeney had a clutch rbi homerun or hit

**grandllama** · 06-13-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

When's the last time sweeney had a clutch rbi homerun or hit

1992

**HemiEd** · 06-13-2005, 10:01 AM

Nice post Beer Me, but I have been in the trade him camp. I appreciate all of the good things that you so eloquently mention. However, if we are truly trying to build a team like the Twins we must let them all grow up together IMO.
I am of the "screw today" camp, let's invest for tomorrow. I do enjoy seeing them win now though when they do. I guess I want my cake and eat it also.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 06-13-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Nice post Beer Me, but I have been in the trade him camp. I appreciate all of the good things that you so eloquently mention. However, if we are truly trying to build a team like the Twins we must let them all grow up together IMO.
I am of the "screw today" camp, let's invest for tomorrow. I do enjoy seeing them win now though when they do. I guess I want my cake and eat it also.

Maybe I'm dreaming here but it seems to me that even teams who say they are "re-building" have at least one proven player to build around.

Who are we to build around if not Sweeney? Berroa? DeJesus? Grienke? These are all guys still trying to find their own way in the league. None of them are ready for team leader status.

**ChiTown** · 06-13-2005, 09:07 AM

Nice rant.

Fact is, Sweeney doesn't make this team better when you have a youth movement going on. His $11MM/yr salary soaks up a lot of the overall dollars needed to fund a team in KC. I love Sweeney. He's a great guy, a helluva player, and probably a fantastic teammate. He's just the wrong guy for this club right now. When I see Sweemey, I see a possible young corner outfielder or a budding SS prospect. Sorry, but that's just the way it is for me.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 06-13-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Nice rant.

Fact is, Sweeney doesn't make this team better when you have a youth movement going on. His $11MM/yr salary soaks up a lot of the overall dollars needed to fund a team in KC. I love Sweeney. He's a great guy, a helluva player, and probably a fantastic teammate. He's just the wrong guy for this club right now. When I see Sweemey, I see a possible young corner outfielder or a budding SS prospect. Sorry, but that's just the way it is for me.

First off I don't know who's ranting but whatever you want to believe.

Secondly, the Royals are always rebuidling, they just don't always use the word.

BigChiefFan · 06-13-2005, 09:08 AM

I'm always in the corner of the player who CHOOSES to stick around for the boys in blue. Sweeney has been a solid player for us and I appreciate his effort throughout the years.

**ChiTown** · 06-13-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I'm always in the corner of the player who CHOOSES to stick around for the boys in blue. Sweeney has been a solid player for us and I appreciate his effort throughout the years.

Umm, he chose to stick around, and also got a $55MM contract.

There's no questioning Mikes Character or his loyalty, but let's at least be a bit honest with ourselves, ok?

06-13-2005, 09:03 AM	Topic Starter
Dr. Johnny Fever stax of wax Join Date: Feb 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	Mike Sweeney appreciation thread I'm more than a little tired of listening to people bash Mike Sweeney. He's always hurt, he doesn't slide hard enough into the catcher, he's got an iron glove.... bla, bla, bla... get real. Mike Sweeney has done nothing to deserve the shit so many so called Royals fans often like to sling his way. These idiots that demand he be traded for prospects, that he's soft, that he isn't the perfect mix of Babe Ruth and Joe DiMaggio. These are the same fans that whine about losing every good player we have to free agency because the Royals can't or won't pay them enough to stay around. The same people who constantly bitch about our "minor league roster" but are more than willing to part with the best player on the team so we can get more minor leaguers. Listen up folks...and you know who you are. When an opposing pitcher looks over the Royals' line-up, who do you think makes them make any adjustments outside of doing whatever the hell they want to do? Ruben Gotay? Mark Teahen? Terrance Long? David DeJesus? No...Mike Sweeney is the only bone-fide threat in the line-up. Mike Sweeney is the only guy that the opposing team doesn't want at the plate with runners on. Mike Sweeney is the only guy who can make the opposing pitcher sweat a little... just a little. Mike Sweeney could have bolted KC like so many before him, long ago. He didn't have to sign a contract extension to stay in a small market, on a bad team, with little or no real future playoff aspirations...but he did. All he asked was that his employers do everything they could do to field a winning team for ONE season. He didn't ask for a championship or he's gone. He didn't even demand that the Royals win the weakest division in baseball. He asked that they show the same kind of commitment to winning and dedication to the team for ONE season that he has shown. ONE DAMN SEASON! That's all it took for Sweeney's new contract extension to go into effect. His team met the challenge two years ago, finished over .500 and have done little but back-pedal ever since... but is Mike demanding a trade? No. Instead he's getting in his team-mates faces, leading by example and trying to win. Sure, Sweeney has had some injury problems. I'm pretty certain that it hasn't been because he WANTS to be injured. I'm reasonably confident that he doesn't feel like his team doesn't need him or that he's just acting like a prima donna who tired of being on the field and wants some time off. No, Mike Sweeney wants to play. He wants to help his team-mates get better. He wants to win...in Kansas City. Not in New York or Boston or LA.... IN KANSAS CITY! HE'S HERE BECAUSE HE CHOOSES TO BE! HE'S THE ONE BONA-FIDE STAR WHO HASN'T USED KC AS AN AUDITION TO GET A BIG FAT PAYCHECK IN A SPOTLIGHT CITY! Mike Sweeney is a good guy too. Not just a run of the mill good guy... but a really good guy. He's a part of the community. He's a team player. He's the real deal. No, he isn't the best first baseman in baseball... but he's not the worst either. Yes, his back problems have been frustrating for Royals fan. You think maybe they've been even more frustrating for him though? I imagine his back would give out from time to time carrying the entire franchise on it for so long... then getting shit from fans for how he does it. Mike Sweeney deserves better. From his front-office, from his team-mates, from mlb as a whole, but mostly from Royals fans who are too busy whinning about his imperfections too see the big picture. Mike Sweeney is the face of a mostly faceless organization. He's done nothing but work hard, play hard and promote Kansas City. He wants nothing more than to win.....HERE. That alone makes him more worthy than any of his recent predecessors of our loyalty and appreciation.
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06-13-2005, 09:04 AM	#2
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06-13-2005, 10:01 AM	#10
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $-359436	Nice post Beer Me, but I have been in the trade him camp. I appreciate all of the good things that you so eloquently mention. However, if we are truly trying to build a team like the Twins we must let them all grow up together IMO. I am of the "screw today" camp, let's invest for tomorrow. I do enjoy seeing them win now though when they do. I guess I want my cake and eat it also.
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06-13-2005, 09:07 AM	#12
ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $-411038	Nice rant. Fact is, Sweeney doesn't make this team better when you have a youth movement going on. His $11MM/yr salary soaks up a lot of the overall dollars needed to fund a team in KC. I love Sweeney. He's a great guy, a helluva player, and probably a fantastic teammate. He's just the wrong guy for this club right now. When I see Sweemey, I see a possible young corner outfielder or a budding SS prospect. Sorry, but that's just the way it is for me. __________________
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06-13-2005, 09:08 AM	#14
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	I'm always in the corner of the player who CHOOSES to stick around for the boys in blue. Sweeney has been a solid player for us and I appreciate his effort throughout the years. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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