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Old 01-12-2006, 10:46 AM   Topic Starter
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Chiefs still after marinelli?
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Edwards hinted Wednesday that he may be interested in Marinelli, a Tampa Bay assistant who is interviewing for the Detroit Lions’ head-coaching job. But it won’t affect the status of Cunningham, who was hired by Dick Vermeil in 2004 to turn around a defense that ranked near the bottom of the league.
so let me try and get a feel of the situation...


marinelli is still interviewing for head coaching positions so we can't really try and hire him yet and Gun was about to hit the market for other job chances.

So rather than losing both .... Edwards got the ok to hire both


Gunther as DC ... Marinelli as asst. HC/Defensive Coord


so on defense we'll have

Edward - a defensive HC
Marinelli - a defensive asst HC
Gunther - DC/foot shuffling porter



i can live with that ... as long as we get marinelli to keep a leash on Gun.
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Old 01-12-2006, 10:49 AM   #2
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Why would Marinelli come here in a position other than D-coordinator? He's in demand.
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Old 01-12-2006, 10:50 AM   #3
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Why would Marinelli come here in a position other than D-coordinator? He's in demand.
ehh?!


... maybe because assistant head coach is a higher position than Defensive coordinator.
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Old 01-12-2006, 10:52 AM   #4
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ehh?!


... maybe because assistant head coach is a higher position than Defensive coordinator.
Huh? You honestly think that?
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Old 01-12-2006, 10:56 AM   #5
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Huh? You honestly think that?
yes ... actually i don't have to think it, it just IS


when a team wants to hire away a OC or DC from another team they add the title of Assistant Head coach to his title and give the coach a pay upgrade to make it a promotion.
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Old 01-12-2006, 10:52 AM   #6
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ehh?!


... maybe because assistant head coach is a higher position than Defensive coordinator.
I don't know about that. AHC sounds like a made up title to me.
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Old 01-12-2006, 10:55 AM   #7
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I don't know about that. AHC sounds like a made up title to me.
Exactly. The coordinator's position is where the power is, and doing a good job at it is what gets you a head coaching gig. I think Marinelli was already assistant head coach in Tampa. He's hardly at a higher position than Kiffin.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:04 AM   #8
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I don't know about that. AHC sounds like a made up title to me.
it is a made up title...


made up by NFL teams so they could steal away coaches from other teams without making them a head coach.

Al saunders was for the chiefs


http://www.kcchiefs.com/coaches/

Al Saunders Asst. Head Coach/Off. Coordinator
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Old 01-12-2006, 10:52 AM   #9
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ehh?!


... maybe because assistant head coach is a higher position than Defensive coordinator.
And HC (even in Detroit) is a higher position than Assistant HC...
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:23 AM   #10
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... maybe because assistant head coach is a higher position than Defensive coordinator.
Actually it is not. It is more of a formality title (but does lead to you being temp HC if the HC ends up ill or out for some other reason). Marinelli is Asst Head Coach/Def Line Coach right now in Tampa Bay and I guarantee he is not over Monte Kiffin
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:41 AM   #11
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Actually it is not. It is more of a formality title (but does lead to you being temp HC if the HC ends up ill or out for some other reason). Marinelli is Asst Head Coach/Def Line Coach right now in Tampa Bay and I guarantee he is not over Monte Kiffin
picky bastiges...


Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator > Defensive Coordinator


the very action of adding Assistant head coach TO defensive coordinator makes it higher.


and yes, if you had the assistant head coach to the title of Piss Boy it doesn't make it higher than Defensive coordinator.




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Old 01-12-2006, 11:59 AM   #12
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picky bastiges...


Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator > Defensive Coordinator


the very action of adding Assistant head coach TO defensive coordinator makes it higher.


and yes, if you had the assistant head coach to the title of Piss Boy it doesn't make it higher than Defensive coordinator.




man, everyone is looking to argue today ... cranking beotches
I thought you said Asst HC/defensive specialist (whatever one of those is I am pretty sure it is not a DC)

So give me some help here, what is a defensive specialists job?
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:41 AM   #13
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... maybe because assistant head coach is a higher position than Defensive coordinator.
Should have known someone would have already pointed that out.
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Uh.....not sure I get it.
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so let me try and get a feel of the situation...


marinelli is still interviewing for head coaching positions so we can really try and hire him yet and Gun was about to hit the market for other job chances.

So rather than losing both Edwards got the ok to hire both


Gunther as DC ... Marinelli as asst. HC/Defensive specialist


so on defense we'll have

Edward as a defensive HC
Marinelli as a defensive asst HC
Gunther as DC/foot shuffling porter



i can live with that ... as long as we get marinelli to keep a leash on Gun.
That would be a pretty good bunch of defensive minds working together. That'd be great if it worked out that way. Just for shits and giggles if it came down to getting Saunder back as OC or bringing in Marinelli as a Co-DC who would you want? I ask this because if one gets an HC job it might keep the other from getting an HC job. It might not but it could. I'd take Saunders back if I had to choose.

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