Clayton on the Chiefs Cap Trouble

nychief · 02-22-2006, 05:47 PM

7. Cap relief renegotiations: Every hotel lobby and restaurant in downtown Indy will be filled with agents meeting with teams over renegotiations. The teams that will have the toughest time getting under the cap without a CBA extension are the Redskins and the Chiefs. The Redskins are $25 million over. The Chiefs are $20 million over. Most of the other teams that are over the cap have players whose releases create a lot of cap room. The 30-percent rule makes it harder for teams to do cap relief deals and may force them to cut more players to get under the cap. The reason the 30-percent rule is tough is because a player who takes a salary cap reduction will also have to reduce his future pay to fit the 30-percent increases. This will force more teams to do creative deals with voids that could result in their losing the player in 2007 just to get under the cap.

**Dunit35** · 02-22-2006, 05:51 PM

Our salary cap problems will be just fine. Think of the money saving by releasing Bell, Mccleon...Restructering Gonzo...

Mecca · 02-22-2006, 05:54 PM

Basically what he's saying is if the CBA doesn't get done we're hosed. Of course if the CBA doesn't get done the NFL is hosed in general.

9 owners are threatening to sue if a CBA is forced on them. No names were put out there but something tells me Jones, Snyder and McNair are leading that charge.

It will be fun when it doesn't get done and theres no cap and then in 08 there's no draft.......

**Dunit35** · 02-22-2006, 06:04 PM

I think it's a joke and this should've been done a long time ago.

Mecca · 02-22-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunit35

I think it's a joke and this should've been done a long time ago.

There's enough owners that make a ton more money than other teams that don't want it to get done. They want to turn it into baseball so they can buy titles.

Greedy owners are going to ruin what has made the NFL great.

**jAZ** · 02-22-2006, 06:38 PM

I think the CBA will be done. It makes too much sense for almost all owners involved. Let those 7 teams go form their own league if they don't like it. I'm sure the rights to the name "USFL" are available. That would go over quite well.

**chefsos** · 02-22-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

I think the CBA will be done. It makes too much sense for almost all owners involved. Let those 7 teams go form their own league if they don't like it. I'm sure the rights to the name "USFL" are available. That would go over quite well.

With Snyder and Jones considered, that's not completely out of the realm of possibility. Maybe not now, but someday.

Mecca · 02-22-2006, 07:35 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2332991
That's a CBA article from Clayton.

**Dunit35** · 02-22-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2332991
That's a CBA article from Clayton.

What a joke. Those teams that are getting in the way is stupid. This looks like it would ruin football forever.

Mecca · 02-22-2006, 11:16 PM

NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw recently said that nine NFL franchises are resisting the expansion of revenue sharing by the league's 32 teams.* Upshaw also told Mark Maske of The Washington Post that the nine teams are planning to file suit if they are forced to share revenues that currently are not distributed evenly among all teams.

A league source has identified for us the members of this modern-day Mudville nine:* the Redskins, Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, Jets, Panthers, Broncos, Patriots, and Texans.

Eleazar · 02-22-2006, 11:22 PM

Carl just said the other day he wasn't worried, and wouldn't even take Green up on his offer to restructure. That seemed to me like he was confident there wouldn't be a problem getting under a cap with moves that were planned to be made.

02-22-2006, 05:47 PM	Topic Starter
nychief MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Casino cash: $5489466	Clayton on the Chiefs Cap Trouble 7. Cap relief renegotiations: Every hotel lobby and restaurant in downtown Indy will be filled with agents meeting with teams over renegotiations. The teams that will have the toughest time getting under the cap without a CBA extension are the Redskins and the Chiefs. The Redskins are $25 million over. The Chiefs are $20 million over. Most of the other teams that are over the cap have players whose releases create a lot of cap room. The 30-percent rule makes it harder for teams to do cap relief deals and may force them to cut more players to get under the cap. The reason the 30-percent rule is tough is because a player who takes a salary cap reduction will also have to reduce his future pay to fit the 30-percent increases. This will force more teams to do creative deals with voids that could result in their losing the player in 2007 just to get under the cap.
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02-22-2006, 05:51 PM	#2
Dunit35 Keepin it Real Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oklahoma Casino cash: $-2092955	Our salary cap problems will be just fine. Think of the money saving by releasing Bell, Mccleon...Restructering Gonzo...
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02-22-2006, 05:54 PM	#3
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-492950	Basically what he's saying is if the CBA doesn't get done we're hosed. Of course if the CBA doesn't get done the NFL is hosed in general. 9 owners are threatening to sue if a CBA is forced on them. No names were put out there but something tells me Jones, Snyder and McNair are leading that charge. It will be fun when it doesn't get done and theres no cap and then in 08 there's no draft.......
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02-22-2006, 06:04 PM	#4
Dunit35 Keepin it Real Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oklahoma Casino cash: $-2092955	I think it's a joke and this should've been done a long time ago.
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02-22-2006, 06:38 PM	#6
jAZ Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Casino cash: $9817493	I think the CBA will be done. It makes too much sense for almost all owners involved. Let those 7 teams go form their own league if they don't like it. I'm sure the rights to the name "USFL" are available. That would go over quite well.
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02-22-2006, 07:35 PM	#8
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-492950	http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2332991 That's a CBA article from Clayton.
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02-22-2006, 11:16 PM	#10
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-492950	NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw recently said that nine NFL franchises are resisting the expansion of revenue sharing by the league's 32 teams.* Upshaw also told Mark Maske of The Washington Post that the nine teams are planning to file suit if they are forced to share revenues that currently are not distributed evenly among all teams. A league source has identified for us the members of this modern-day Mudville nine:* the Redskins, Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, Jets, Panthers, Broncos, Patriots, and Texans.
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02-22-2006, 11:22 PM	#11
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Carl just said the other day he wasn't worried, and wouldn't even take Green up on his offer to restructure. That seemed to me like he was confident there wouldn't be a problem getting under a cap with moves that were planned to be made.
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