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View Poll Results: Will Carl try to make progress in improving the team?
Hell no!!!!! The fatcat is happy rolling in the cash with mediocrity 8 32.00%
Hell Yes!!!! KC is Superbowl bound next season 4 16.00%
This team will get worse due to genius GM skills 7 28.00%
Gaz, needs to kick down Petersons door kick him out with soccer style kick that would make Jan Jan Stenerud shed a tear of joy 6 24.00%
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:58 AM   Topic Starter
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I'm not Sure about you guys but....
I have that same helpless and disgusted feeling when we went 6-10 and drafted Sims. It all stems from King Carl of course
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:59 AM   #2
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There can be no discussion without more visualization. You have a good start just not enough work on the main points of yout thesis.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:02 PM   #3
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:01 PM   #4
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I had a pretty good feeling after we drafted Sims. I thought he'd be a star. Obviously, I was very wrong.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:11 PM   #5
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:36 PM   #6
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Name the year that Carl didn't try to improve the team.

I'm sorry but the whole idea of "content with mediocrity" is absurd to me. If Carl's only motive is money, winning would be the best path to attain his goal. Winning a Superbowl is a windfall for an organization.

The Chiefs probably just had their worst year of ticket sales since shortly after Peterson arrived. the idea that they want a repeat of tha tis ridiculous.

It's not that Peterson doesn't want to win. It's just the he's not good at it. He's the Marty Schottenheimer of GMs.
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Old 01-09-2007, 04:02 PM   #7
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Name the year that Carl didn't try to improve the team.

I'm sorry but the whole idea of "content with mediocrity" is absurd to me. If Carl's only motive is money, winning would be the best path to attain his goal. Winning a Superbowl is a windfall for an organization.

The Chiefs probably just had their worst year of ticket sales since shortly after Peterson arrived. the idea that they want a repeat of tha tis ridiculous.

It's not that Peterson doesn't want to win. It's just the he's not good at it. He's the Marty Schottenheimer of GMs.

Ahhh but getting good player's might deal with cap hell for awhile to get that SB, and Peterson is not willing to pay the price. Hence the mediocrity statement
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Old 01-09-2007, 04:28 PM   #8
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Name the year that Carl didn't try to improve the team.

I'm sorry but the whole idea of "content with mediocrity" is absurd to me. If Carl's only motive is money, winning would be the best path to attain his goal. Winning a Superbowl is a windfall for an organization.

The Chiefs probably just had their worst year of ticket sales since shortly after Peterson arrived. the idea that they want a repeat of tha tis ridiculous.

It's not that Peterson doesn't want to win. It's just the he's not good at it. He's the Marty Schottenheimer of GMs.
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Old 01-09-2007, 04:30 PM   #9
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Yep gave big money contracts to the ring leaders of the worst defense in the NFL. Woods, Wesley and Hicks

But anyway I think King Carl does want to win and does what he thinks is best. He's just a nincompoop when it comes to evaluating talent.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:49 AM   #10
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Yep gave big money contracts to the ring leaders of the worst defense in the NFL. Woods, Wesley and Hicks

But anyway I think King Carl does want to win and does what he thinks is best. He's just a nincompoop when it comes to evaluating talent.
He's a nincompoop because he gives the coaching staff more voice in the early rounds than he does the scouting staff.

The coaching staff listens to biased college coaches, and put entirely too much stock in the workout numbers.

The guys who were hired to evaluate the players in the games that they actually played in aren't given a voice until the later rounds, which is where Carl and the Chiefs have done a consistently good job finding hidden gems.

Carl should just have a profile of the kinds of players the coach wants, and send the scouts out to find the best players that fit that profile.
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:20 AM   #11
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Name the year that Carl didn't try to improve the team.

I'm sorry but the whole idea of "content with mediocrity" is absurd to me. If Carl's only motive is money, winning would be the best path to attain his goal. Winning a Superbowl is a windfall for an organization.

The Chiefs probably just had their worst year of ticket sales since shortly after Peterson arrived. the idea that they want a repeat of tha tis ridiculous.

It's not that Peterson doesn't want to win. It's just the he's not good at it. He's the Marty Schottenheimer of GMs.
I always ask myself "why?"

Why do the Chiefs continue to keep Peterson as their GM when all he did was build mediocre teams? I just find it weird. Its mind boggling. I can't understand it, and probably never will.

It's just that when you look at the numbers, that is, not winning a playoff game in 13 years, making the playoffs only twice in the last 9 years, but then the question pops up, why? why do we continue to keep this guy? It makes absolute no sense to me. Their must be a reason? And we'll probably never know the answer.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:38 PM   #12
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I'd say King Carl does try hard to get good players here etc, there is effort there, like JSP said, it hasn't worked out.
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