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Old 08-05-2007, 11:22 AM   Topic Starter
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Chargers overrated?
Am I the only one who thinks the Chargers are way overrated this year? Every site on the net, it seems like, has rhem as at least a top 5 team, despite the fact that they have an entirely new coaching staff, headed up by Norv Tuener. A coach who has done nothing as a head coach. Granted, the chargers have a very talented team, but Turner had plenty of talent available in washington, and he did nothing with it there. Plus, we all know how good Marty Schottenheimer was as a regular season coach. His teams always overachieved. You could add 2-3 wins at least to a teams total just by making him head coach. I say the offense, which is already Turners system, will do fine, but I just cant see the defense being as good. Heck they might turn into aa Dick Vermeil, all offense, no defense team.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:24 AM   #2
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I don't think their offense is overrated; it's a mirror image of the 2003 Chiefs.

Their defense, yeah I think so. Their defensive line is one of the most vicious in the league, and their outside LBs are as well, but they're working with a downgraded pair of interior LBs IMO and their secondary is full of pretty decent guys.

I don't think they're a top five defense anymore with the downgrade they suffered at LB, but Merriman, Phillips, and that dangerous DL make them a sure-fire top 10, at least.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:27 AM   #3
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I don't think their offense is overrated; it's a mirror image of the 2003 Chiefs.

Their defense, yeah I think so. Their defensive line is one of the most vicious in the league, and their outside LBs are as well, but they're working with a downgraded pair of interior LBs IMO and their secondary is full of pretty decent guys.

I don't think they're a top five defense anymore with the downgrade they suffered at LB, but Merriman, Phillips, and that dangerous DL make them a sure-fire top 10, at least.
Just the fact that they have real players on their D makes them not a mirror image of the Chiefs of 2003.....

Talent wise the Chargers are a top 3 team.....they probably deserve to be ranked top 5 going into the season.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:28 AM   #4
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Just the fact that they have real players on their D makes them not a mirror image of the Chiefs of 2003.....

Talent wise the Chargers are a top 3 team.....they probably deserve to be ranked top 5 going into the season.
I was talking about their offense, dingus.

I think the Chargers should be considered the #2 team right behind the Pats.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:25 AM   #5
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They will probably hit some bumps early on with the new coaching staff getting up to speed...but this is still a very dangerous team.

Our 2 games with'em will still be brutal affairs.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:27 AM   #6
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They will probably hit some bumps early on with the new coaching staff getting up to speed...but this is still a very dangerous team.

Our 2 games with'em will still be brutal affairs.
I think we outplayed them last year, to be honest, and we've upgraded this year. We usually play out of our minds when we play this upgraded Chargers team.

We won the first game, of course, and save a freakish punt block, Bell simply falling down like an idiot to allow LT to run for a 90-yard TD, and a Green pass that goes off Tony G's fingers in the endzone, and there's a good chance the Chiefs get the sweep.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:30 AM   #7
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I think we outplayed them last year, to be honest, and we've upgraded this year. We usually play out of our minds when we play this upgraded Chargers team.

We won the first game, of course, and save a freakish punt block, Bell simply falling down like an idiot to allow LT to run for a 90-yard TD, and a Green pass that goes off Tony G's fingers in the endzone, and there's a good chance the Chiefs get the sweep.
Oh i totally agree that we always play well against them, but in my mind they have overtaken Dinbeer as the team in the AFCW that gives us the toughest test.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:28 AM   #8
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Got to get that stadium built
or move them to LA
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:28 PM   #9
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Got to get that stadium built
or move them to LA
As far as I know they are making zero progress in finding a city in San Diego County that will build the new stadium. They are talking to Oceanside and Chula Vista but there has been no knew developments in months. Their old stadium is starting to fall apart. I would bet that after this season is over the Chargers are going to start talking to other citys outside of the San Diego area and even outside the SoCal area. That would really suck for all the bandwagoning Charger Fans.

I have a bad feeling that the Chargers are going to kick ass and the Chiefs are going to get their ass kicked. I hope that I am wrong.
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Playing the what if game with the Chiefs against good teams on the road is an every year thing.....that's just the Chiefs on the road they **** up and lose.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:30 AM   #11
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Playing the what if game with the Chiefs against good teams on the road is an every year thing.....that's just the Chiefs on the road they **** up and lose.
I think we know why that is.

1. The Chiefs have been filled with soft, babied bitche.
2. The Chiefs have been dependent on offense the past few years, and it's incredibly hard to "out-offense" a good home team.

Herm's a great answer to both problems, especially if he can somehow figure out an offense.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:32 AM   #12
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Am I the only one who thinks the Chargers are way overrated this year? Every site on the net, it seems like, has rhem as at least a top 5 team, despite the fact that they have an entirely new coaching staff, headed up by Norv Tuener. A coach who has done nothing as a head coach. Granted, the chargers have a very talented team, but Turner had plenty of talent available in washington, and he did nothing with it there. Plus, we all know how good Marty Schottenheimer was as a regular season coach. His teams always overachieved. You could add 2-3 wins at least to a teams total just by making him head coach. I say the offense, which is already Turners system, will do fine, but I just cant see the defense being as good. Heck they might turn into aa Dick Vermeil, all offense, no defense team.
no, they're not overrated....but their coach does suck
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:36 AM   #13
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The new coaching staff issue is somewhat negated by the fact that the offensive scheme is basically the same. That being said I do believe that they will struggle to win the West and will not go deep in the playoffs.
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Make no mistake, Mr. jjchieffan, the Chargers are stacked with talent. It would take an amazingly fatheaded, feebleminded, fool of a coach to screw them up.

We're in luck.

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Old 08-05-2007, 11:51 AM   #15
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Make no mistake, Mr. jjchieffan, the Chargers are stacked with talent. It would take an amazingly fatheaded, feebleminded, fool of a coach to screw them up.

We're in luck.

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I hope your right, but as crappy a coach as Turner is I still don't see him being able to mess this up enough to not win the West in his first year. Too much talent on board. In a year or two we should see the fruit of the Turner decision come fully ripe.
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