That's it. I'm freaking done with these idiots.

**Rain Man** · 11-18-2007, 07:33 PM

Back in the 1970s, our teams were bad. They lost games. They got soundly beaten by opponents. But you know what? I could live with it. The teams back then at least tried to win.

Now? I love this team. Love it. We've got massive talent on defense. We've got top-notch players on offense. We've got a new quarterback who can win, and we've got a potential superstar at wide receiver and legitimate superstarts at tight end and running back.

And we've got a coach who is biggest freaking idiot this side of Paul Hackett.

The last time I was this mad about a loss was against Indianapolis in 1995, when we lost home field in the playoffs because of the worst game plan, or rather lack of a game plan, in football history. And now we're repeating it on a weekly basis.

It's the fourth quarter. The score is tied. The best quarterback in the game is on the other sideline. And we freaking concede a drive? We don't even TRY to get a first down? We punt the ball to the most productive offense of the decade? Both teams had one opportunity to win the game, and our stupid, idiotic, moronic, imbecilic coaching staff VOLUNTARILY GAVE OUR CHANCE AWAY! THEY SAID, "WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO SCORE, SO LET'S PLAY FOR A TIE AND PUNT IT PEYTON FREAKING MANNING." What sort of intellectual plant life would you have to be to do that? They voluntarily reduced our chances of winning to zero, and for no reason.

AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! I'm so mad about this that I can't stand it. They do this every freaking week. We have perhaps ten chances to score in a game, and they VOLUNTARILY give up on half of them! How does someone do this and keep their job? If I owned that team, that freaking coach-in-name-only would not get on the plane to come home. He would pay his own way back, and I would mail his office stuff to him in a box. I'd give the Arrowhead guards pepper spray and a picture of his unibrowed visage of confusion.

I can't do this any more. Just can't. This was the last straw. This was stupidity at it's finest. This was building the freaking Egyptian pyramids of stupidity. This was stupidity that will stand as a shining example of the art for the next four thousand years. Stupid scholars will study this game plan and write dissertations about it. It was miss-the-$100-question-on-Who- Wants-To-Be-A-Millionaire-after- using-all-of-your-lifelines stupid.

This is a good team. This is a strong team. This team could be very, very good if they were allowed to be. And you know what? Just trade them all. Trade them and stock up draft picks for a possible time when the stupid ownership of this team finally sells it to someone who will fire the stupid Haile Selassie president-for-life general manager and hire someone who will in turn fire the stupid "I think we get points for close losses" coaching staff, and then when those things happen maybe we can use those picks to field a competitive team. Until Herman Edwards is gone, and all photographs of his slackjawed RCA-Victor-Dog-Looking-At-Victrola face have been burned, just pile up picks and use semi-pro players, because the end result will be the same.

If I was Tony Gonzalez or Derrick Johnson or Jared Allen, I would go to Clark Hunt's office with a sleeping bag and I would not leave there until there's a regime change. Don't waste your career playing for piece of garbage idiot like Herm Edwards who can't even fathom trying to win a game.

Three drives! At least three drives where we just intentionally folded up. Didn't even try! "Eh, who cares? Just run for a few yards and punt it. Who cares?" Did these people never watch Joe Montana in the Super Bowl against Cincinnati? Do they not understand that the team with the most points wins? Where is the understanding here, people! Where?!?!?!?!

I HATE YOU, HERMAN EDWARDS! HATE! HATE, HATE, HATE! No, no. It's more than hate! Far more than hate. It's outright despisal!

YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME!

I don't know if I can communicate this any more clearly. This coach has to be removed from power, using any means possible. I'm 44 years old. I don't want to have to concede five more seasons of giving away wins while I wait. He has to go now! NOW! NOW!!!!

**the Talking Can** · 11-18-2007, 07:37 PM

I was told by very intelligent posters that it is crazy to play to win.

**the Talking Can** · 11-18-2007, 07:37 PM

Herm has lost Rain Man.

MadMax · 11-18-2007, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Herm has lost Rain Man.

Yea I'd say so

jjjayb · 11-18-2007, 07:47 PM

I couldn't have said it better myself rainmain. It amazes me that the guy who is most famous for his "you play to win the game" quote continually fails to live up to his words. I don't understand the mentality of a coach who thinks the offenses job is to just get field position. I'll be glad when this experiment is over and Cowher takes over.

**Rain Man** · 11-18-2007, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjayb

I couldn't have said it better myself rainmain. It amazes me that the guy who is most famous for his "you play to win the game" quote continually fails to live up to his words. I don't understand the mentality of a coach who thinks the offenses job is to just get field position. I'll be glad when this experiment is over and Cowher takes over.

Yes! That's a perfect diagnosis of it. They seem to think that it's fine to get three extra yards.

And sure, most of the time we won't convert a third and long. But sometimes we will, and that drive could produce a score. And even if we don't, we could possibly get more yards on a passing play. This running on third and long is so...so...Paul Hackett that it makes me want to scream. It's a nightmare that I had hoped was over.

stevieray · 11-18-2007, 07:49 PM

Kirk: Shields up!
Sulu:Not responding, Captain!
Bones: Damn it Jim, he's a fan. not a friggin machine!
Kirk:Scotty?
Scotty: I caan't dew anything capn, she's not holding power!
Spock:It's only Dr.Doo...err Logical...

MadMax · 11-18-2007, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray

Kirk: Shields up!
Sulu:Not responding, Captain!
Bones: Damn it Jim, he's a fan. not a friggin machine!
Kirk:Scotty?
Scotty: I caan't dew anything capn, she's not holding power!
Spock:It's only Dr.Doo...err Logical...

Logical · 11-18-2007, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray

Kirk: Shields up!
Sulu:Not responding, Captain!
Bones: Damn it Jim, he's a fan. not a friggin machine!
Kirk:Scotty?
Scotty: I caan't dew anything capn, she's not holding power!
Spock:It's only Dr.Doo...err Logical...

rep

Hydrae · 11-18-2007, 07:39 PM

Wow, quite the rant.

I understand your feelings all too well but for me the bottom line is this...

will you still be posting here on the Planet while you wait for heck to freeze over? I can handle the ineptitude at 1 Arrowhead Drive as long as I have your posts to help keep me sane.

You can hate Herm and Carl and Mike all you want but DON"T LEAVE US!!!

RJ · 11-18-2007, 07:39 PM

Well, I didn't see the game but I must say Kevin makes a compelling argument. HERM MUST GO!!!!!

Just hopping on the bandwagon before it fills up.

88TG88 · 11-18-2007, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ

Well, I didn't see the game but I must say Kevin makes a compelling argument. CARL MUST GO!!!!!

Just hopping on the bandwagon before it fills up.

FYP

Demonpenz · 11-18-2007, 07:40 PM

Run the ball stop the run wins games

Lbedrock1 · 11-18-2007, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Run the ball stop the run wins games

the patriots have proved that wrong. I have brady on my fantasy team and he doesnt give me 40 something points because the pats run the ball. Scoring when games.

Zouk · 11-18-2007, 07:40 PM

The draw happened at 7:08 in the game on 3rd and 18 on our own 37.

You could use as many caps as you want, but that play call is 100% standard in the league nowadays. Just about every team would do the same. The only ones who wouldn't either have Tom Brady at QB or are terrible.

View Poll Results: In what manner would you like to see Herm Edwards fired? (Multiple choice)
Push him out of the plane over Illinois.	22	26.83%
Take his airline ticket and make him hitchhike...in a skirt.	15	18.29%
As opposed to merely firing him, set the idiot on fire.	15	18.29%
Tie him to Paul Hackett and force them to beat each other to death.	17	20.73%
Nukes, special forces, anything. How it happens doesn't matter.	19	23.17%
Be professional and just fire him in his office. With a big stick with a nail in it.	14	17.07%
It cannot stop at Herman Edwards. We have to exterminate the whole front office roachbed.	38	46.34%
Actually, I'm thrilled with Herman Edwards' "it's a win if you're within seven points" philosophy.	11	13.41%
Trade him to the Raiders by telling Al Davis that he throws the ball downfield.	18	21.95%
Hold a big team meeting and fire him in front of everybody, and make him walk out dragging the Boulder of Shame.	26	31.71%
I have some other plan for firing him, described in my post.	5	6.10%
I haven't yet decided if his "play to lose close" philosophy is a problem, and I can't feed myself.	12	14.63%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

11-18-2007, 07:33 PM	Topic Starter
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-452449 VARSITY	That's it. I'm freaking done with these idiots. Back in the 1970s, our teams were bad. They lost games. They got soundly beaten by opponents. But you know what? I could live with it. The teams back then at least tried to win. Now? I love this team. Love it. We've got massive talent on defense. We've got top-notch players on offense. We've got a new quarterback who can win, and we've got a potential superstar at wide receiver and legitimate superstarts at tight end and running back. And we've got a coach who is biggest freaking idiot this side of Paul Hackett. The last time I was this mad about a loss was against Indianapolis in 1995, when we lost home field in the playoffs because of the worst game plan, or rather lack of a game plan, in football history. And now we're repeating it on a weekly basis. It's the fourth quarter. The score is tied. The best quarterback in the game is on the other sideline. And we freaking concede a drive? We don't even TRY to get a first down? We punt the ball to the most productive offense of the decade? Both teams had one opportunity to win the game, and our stupid, idiotic, moronic, imbecilic coaching staff VOLUNTARILY GAVE OUR CHANCE AWAY! THEY SAID, "WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO SCORE, SO LET'S PLAY FOR A TIE AND PUNT IT PEYTON FREAKING MANNING." What sort of intellectual plant life would you have to be to do that? They voluntarily reduced our chances of winning to zero, and for no reason. AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! I'm so mad about this that I can't stand it. They do this every freaking week. We have perhaps ten chances to score in a game, and they VOLUNTARILY give up on half of them! How does someone do this and keep their job? If I owned that team, that freaking coach-in-name-only would not get on the plane to come home. He would pay his own way back, and I would mail his office stuff to him in a box. I'd give the Arrowhead guards pepper spray and a picture of his unibrowed visage of confusion. I can't do this any more. Just can't. This was the last straw. This was stupidity at it's finest. This was building the freaking Egyptian pyramids of stupidity. This was stupidity that will stand as a shining example of the art for the next four thousand years. Stupid scholars will study this game plan and write dissertations about it. It was miss-the-$100-question-on-Who- Wants-To-Be-A-Millionaire-after- using-all-of-your-lifelines stupid. This is a good team. This is a strong team. This team could be very, very good if they were allowed to be. And you know what? Just trade them all. Trade them and stock up draft picks for a possible time when the stupid ownership of this team finally sells it to someone who will fire the stupid Haile Selassie president-for-life general manager and hire someone who will in turn fire the stupid "I think we get points for close losses" coaching staff, and then when those things happen maybe we can use those picks to field a competitive team. Until Herman Edwards is gone, and all photographs of his slackjawed RCA-Victor-Dog-Looking-At-Victrola face have been burned, just pile up picks and use semi-pro players, because the end result will be the same. If I was Tony Gonzalez or Derrick Johnson or Jared Allen, I would go to Clark Hunt's office with a sleeping bag and I would not leave there until there's a regime change. Don't waste your career playing for piece of garbage idiot like Herm Edwards who can't even fathom trying to win a game. Three drives! At least three drives where we just intentionally folded up. Didn't even try! "Eh, who cares? Just run for a few yards and punt it. Who cares?" Did these people never watch Joe Montana in the Super Bowl against Cincinnati? Do they not understand that the team with the most points wins? Where is the understanding here, people! Where?!?!?!?! I HATE YOU, HERMAN EDWARDS! HATE! HATE, HATE, HATE! No, no. It's more than hate! Far more than hate. It's outright despisal! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! I don't know if I can communicate this any more clearly. This coach has to be removed from power, using any means possible. I'm 44 years old. I don't want to have to concede five more seasons of giving away wins while I wait. He has to go now! NOW! NOW!!!!
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11-18-2007, 07:47 PM	#5
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11-18-2007, 07:49 PM	#7
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11-18-2007, 07:39 PM	#10
Hydrae MVP Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Newport, Or Casino cash: $-963000	Wow, quite the rant. I understand your feelings all too well but for me the bottom line is this... will you still be posting here on the Planet while you wait for heck to freeze over? I can handle the ineptitude at 1 Arrowhead Drive as long as I have your posts to help keep me sane. You can hate Herm and Carl and Mike all you want but DON"T LEAVE US!!!
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11-18-2007, 07:39 PM	#11
RJ Supporter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In a shotgun shack Casino cash: $9895202	Well, I didn't see the game but I must say Kevin makes a compelling argument. HERM MUST GO!!!!! Just hopping on the bandwagon before it fills up.
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11-18-2007, 07:40 PM	#13
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11-18-2007, 07:40 PM	#15
Zouk Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: DC Casino cash: $10004900	The draw happened at 7:08 in the game on 3rd and 18 on our own 37. You could use as many caps as you want, but that play call is 100% standard in the league nowadays. Just about every team would do the same. The only ones who wouldn't either have Tom Brady at QB or are terrible.
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