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Old 12-29-2007, 03:02 PM   Topic Starter
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Draft a QB?
I know it's popular opinion that the Chiefs should take an O lineman with their first round draft choice but I looked up all the winning superbowl quarterbacks at http://www.drafthistory.com/articles/article42.html and found that of the 41 winning teams 28 of them started a quarterback that they drafted. That's 68%. This site only goes through 2004 but the winners since then have been Brady, Roethlisberger and Manning. All were drafted by the teams they played for in the superbowl.
I know that some quarterbacks picked in the first round have been busts (and given Carl's draft history I am confident he could screw this up) but should the Chiefs take a QB with their first pick and build the offense around him? Croyle seems injury prone which was his knock coming out of college and it's mho that lineman can be had after the first pick and in free agency.
Food for thought.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:03 PM   #2
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We've been talking about this subject ad nauseam.

That's my opinion.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:12 PM   #3
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We've been talking about this subject ad nauseam.

That's my opinion.
Sorry, I don't come to this site that often and didn't realize it had been discussed that much.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:20 PM   #4
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Sorry, I don't come to this site that often and didn't realize it had been discussed that much.
It's cool man. It's not gonna happen.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:26 PM   #5
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Sorry, I don't come to this site that often and didn't realize it had been discussed that much.
Oh, it's cool.

Didn't mean to sound like a dick or anything, but just look on the first three pages probably and you'll have plenty of opinions on drafting a QB.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:03 PM   #6
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:06 PM   #7
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I wouldn't be opposed at all for drafting a QB. In fact, Im all for it. I've heard some good things about Colt Brennan from Hawaii.

But with these coaches? I do not trust the minds of our current crop of coaches to develop a QB.
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I know it's popular opinion that the Chiefs should take an O lineman with their first round draft choice but I looked up all the winning superbowl quarterbacks at http://www.drafthistory.com/articles/article42.html and found that of the 41 winning teams 28 of them started a quarterback that they drafted. That's 68%. This site only goes through 2004 but the winners since then have been Brady, Roethlisberger and Manning. All were drafted by the teams they played for in the superbowl.
I know that some quarterbacks picked in the first round have been busts (and given Carl's draft history I am confident he could screw this up) but should the Chiefs take a QB with their first pick and build the offense around him? Croyle seems injury prone which was his knock coming out of college and it's mho that lineman can be had after the first pick and in free agency.
Food for thought.
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It depends. Is there a QB in this draft that's going to take his team to the Superbowl someday? If so, draft him.

The problem with looking at statistics like this is that they don't really give you much predictive power. It makes sense that the really high quality QBs would tend to stick with the teams that drafted them and that they'd also be disproportionately represented in the Superbowl. But the trick is to figure out which QBs are those guys and draft them, not to draft as many QBs as you can just hoping one will hit. If that were the key, the Chiefs could use all their picks on QBs until they finally found the guy.

I'd imagine that a similar analysis of Left Tackles would find that most superbowl winning LTs were drafted by their teams too.
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Old 12-29-2007, 04:10 PM   #9
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As I suspected, of the 41 winning Superbowl teams, 26 of them drafted their starting LT. 5 more signed their starting LT as undrafted rookie free agents (Joe Jacoby and Mark Tuinei). So that's a total of 31 winning superbowl LTs who started their careers with the team they took to the superbowl.

Only 10 of the 41 got their LT from some other team.
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As I suspected, of the 41 winning Superbowl teams, 26 of them drafted their starting LT. 5 more signed their starting LT as undrafted rookie free agents (Joe Jacoby and Mark Tuinei). So that's a total of 31 winning superbowl LTs who started their careers with the team they took to the superbowl.

Only 10 of the 41 got their LT from some other team.
Nice research.
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As I suspected, of the 41 winning Superbowl teams, 26 of them drafted their starting LT. 5 more signed their starting LT as undrafted rookie free agents (Joe Jacoby and Mark Tuinei). So that's a total of 31 winning superbowl LTs who started their careers with the team they took to the superbowl.

Only 10 of the 41 got their LT from some other team.
Holy hell you were bored today.
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Holy hell you were bored today.
LOL, yeah, I was. I didn't intend to look at all 41 superbowls when I started checking, but Wikipedia made it relatively easy by listing the starting lineups for every superbowl.
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His research should be how many of them were first round picks......

Oddly of all of the top AFC teams right now their LT's were 2nd round picks.
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His research should be how many of them were first round picks......

Oddly of all of the top AFC teams right now their LT's were 2nd round picks.
So maybe Gosder Cherilius is the answer?
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His research should be how many of them were first round picks......

Oddly of all of the top AFC teams right now their LT's were 2nd round picks.
IMO our problem is more than the LT position. Our entire line needs to be upgraded.

So my question is:What about the other o-line postions on winning SB teams? Where were they drafted? Were they still with that team come SB time?
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