Where does eveyone stand on smoking bans?

**RNR** · 01-11-2008, 08:14 PM

I think it should be up to the owner, and would even be willing to have it up to the owner if you have to be 21 to enter. City wide is bullshit IMO

FAX · 01-11-2008, 08:15 PM

As an ex-smoker, I cannot stand the smell of cigarette smoke. It is nasty.

But, I'm against the bans, Mr. RedNeckRaider. The market should decide.

FAX

RJ · 01-11-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

As an ex-smoker, I cannot stand the smell of cigarette smoke. It is nasty.

But, I'm against the bans, Mr. RedNeckRaider. The market should decide.

FAX

Ditto on all counts. I hate the smell of cigarettes since I quit but I don't begrudge the right of a business owner to set his own rules.

If I still went to bars and still smoked I think I would quit going to bars. Going outside every time I wanted a smoke would be a royal pain in the ass. Better to buy a 6-pack and stay home.

underEJ · 01-11-2008, 08:43 PM

I don't really have a problem with smoking bans that responded to the "take it outside" call from non-smokers. But, when the bars did what they had to do to keep business open and created patios and outside areas for smokers, I do have a problem with the latest calls to prohibit smoking in all outside areas too, because non smokers want to come outside too.

Bars complied with a law and found a way to keep smokers, who by the way, I have found to buy more drinks, and actually tip better than non-smokers. And their reward is that the legislation is just going to get tougher to appease a loud non-smoking advocacy (many of whom don't actually go to bars.)

Simplex3 · 01-11-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by underEJ

...And their reward is that the legislation is just going to get tougher to appease a loud non-smoking advocacy (many of whom don't actually go to bars.)

I rarely went to bars because I couldn't stand the smell of smoke. It actually opens up more options for me at lunch.

TN_Chief · 01-11-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

I rarely went to bars because I couldn't stand the smell of smoke. It actually opens up more options for me at lunch.

Totally agree. When I'm in a town with no-smoking laws I go out frequently. When I'm in a place that doesn't have them I stay home. It's basically the reverse of the economic argument that many smokers and business owners like to bring up.

underEJ · 01-11-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

I rarely went to bars because I couldn't stand the smell of smoke. It actually opens up more options for me at lunch.

I like to call that "center of the universe syndrome."

Just for reference. I don't smoke.

Adept Havelock · 01-11-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

As an ex-smoker, I cannot stand the smell of cigarette smoke. It is nasty.

But, I'm against the bans, Mr. RedNeckRaider. The market should decide.

FAX

What Mr. FAX said.

Deberg_1990 · 01-11-2008, 08:18 PM

With all sincerity,

F**k Smokers.

**RNR** · 01-11-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

With all sincerity,

F**k Smokers.

I will take that as you are for them vote.

**Bob Dole** · 01-11-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

With all sincerity,

F**k Smokers.

With all sincerity, GFY.

ChiefaRoo · 01-11-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

With all sincerity, GFY.

Here's the deal. Smoking is a personal choice. NOT smelling, inhaling or smelling of smoke is also a personal choice. Since the smoker cannot control his own smoke in public they shouldn't smoke as it's a matter of manners, public health plus it's a dirty disgusting habit which just happens to violate the rights of others in public. Get rid of it. You sick bastards who need your fix should slap on a patch and save your lungs a lot of pain and stress. Don't believe me? ask Peter Jennings.

**RNR** · 01-11-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

Here's the deal. Smoking is a personal choice. NOT smelling, inhaling or smelling of smoke is also a personal choice. Since the smoker cannot control his own smoke in public they shouldn't smoke as it's a matter of manners, public health plus it's a dirty disgusting habit which just happens to violate the rights of others in public. Get rid of it. You sick bastards who need your fix should slap on a patch and save your lungs a lot of pain and stress. Don't believe me? ask Peter Jennings.

This is not about how stupid it is to smoke, it is about the right to allow it in a place you own. A place non smokers can not enter if they choose. It is about rights and freedom.

ChiefaRoo · 01-11-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

This is not about how stupid it is to smoke, it is about the right to allow it in a place you own. A place non smokers can not enter if they choose. It is about rights and freedom.

It's about the public health and the right to choose. In theory a persons personal liberties are universal right up to the point where they negatively impact upon anothers liberty. Smoking in public is an attack on the non-smokers rights and it's an obvious health hazard.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-11-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

With all sincerity,

F**k Smokers.

Right. So now they've impeded on our rights, but not yours. Way to open the door for you to be next. Rausch once said this, and it rings true. "How far are we willing to go as a society to avoid inconvenience?"

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01-11-2008, 08:15 PM	#2
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	As an ex-smoker, I cannot stand the smell of cigarette smoke. It is nasty. But, I'm against the bans, Mr. RedNeckRaider. The market should decide. FAX
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01-11-2008, 08:43 PM	#4
underEJ Veteran Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles Casino cash: $6183141	I don't really have a problem with smoking bans that responded to the "take it outside" call from non-smokers. But, when the bars did what they had to do to keep business open and created patios and outside areas for smokers, I do have a problem with the latest calls to prohibit smoking in all outside areas too, because non smokers want to come outside too. Bars complied with a law and found a way to keep smokers, who by the way, I have found to buy more drinks, and actually tip better than non-smokers. And their reward is that the legislation is just going to get tougher to appease a loud non-smoking advocacy (many of whom don't actually go to bars.)
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01-11-2008, 08:18 PM	#9
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