I think Huard is fed up with Herm and the offensive coaching staff

[Hammock Parties]

BigRedChief's reports have never been wrong before, so I agree that maybe Huard did just up and quit this last Sunday and because of that, is truly in Herm's doghouse. Huard's last throw was that interception, which bounced off Devard Darling. Huard looked disgusted after Darling ****ed that play up.

Of course, the situation - third and long - was created because Herm's wonderful offensive coaching staff dialed up a run up the middle on first down and a pussy middle screen call on 2nd and 7.

Throw in the fact that they were sending Hagans in and out of the game - I'm sure Huard was disgusted with that, too - and it's not hard to see why Huard has had enough.

If you remember, last year Huard was pissed off at the offensive coaching staff, too. I believe it's been publicized that he's not a big fan of Dick Curl. He was much more comfortable with Terry Shea.

Basically last year Huard put up with a terrible offensive coaching staff that had no clue, and got beat the hell up all year long, for basically nothing. Now it's happening again, and he isn't about to put his body on the line for another shit team that has no clue what they're doing on offense if he doesn't have to.

And so he ends up in Herm's doghouse. But can you really blame Huard?

That's my theory anyway. We'll see if Huard gives a shit if he gets back onto the field the rest of the season.

EDIT - Oh, and one other thing. Larry Johnson is the other guy who raised a fuss last year. He's already started this year and I wouldn't be surprised to see it escalate. Will he end up in the doghouse?

[SAUTO]

he has always laid down when the heat was on

[BigRock]

The ball didn't touch Darling. There was a defender pratically in front of Darling and that's who the ball hit. It was a crappy throw into coverage. Huard said as much after the game.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by BigRock

The ball didn't touch Darling. There was a defender pratically in front of Darling and that's who the ball hit. It was a crappy throw into coverage. Huard said as much after the game.

Does anyone have a clip of the play?
I was fairly positive that it hit Darling's left arm.

Oh and I don't buy for one second that Huard took himself out of that game.
He didn't even know when he had gotten hurt when he was asked in the post-game interview.
If he really and truly had faked the injury he had three quarters to have come up with something.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Does anyone have a clip of the play?
I was fairly positive that it hit Darling's left arm.

I think people think it hit Darling because that's what Rich Gannon said at the time. But I don't think any angles showed anything. Here's Huard's quote I was referring to.

“I made a bad read and it was a bad throw,” Huard said of the interception. “I threw it probably a little late and the defender made a good play batting it up in the air for the interception.”

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by BigRock

I think people think it hit Darling because that's what Rich Gannon said at the time.

I was listening to the radio broadcast. I never heard Gannon's take on the play. I watched the replay and it looked to me like it hit Darling.

I'll defer to Huard himself though. He had a better view of the play than I did.
Though sometimes even players are mistaken about what happened on a given play (ie, Randy Moss).

[orange]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Does anyone have a clip of the play?
I was fairly positive that it hit Darling's left arm.

Oh and I don't buy for one second that Huard took himself out of that game.
He didn't even know when he had gotten hurt when he was asked in the post-game interview.
If he really and truly had faked the injury he had three quarters to have come up with something.

Gotta agree with that.

[Rain Man]

You wonder how many players' careers were made or destroyed by the sheer luck of where they were drafted. You have to figure that there are some guys who could've been hall of famers, but they ended up playing for Herm Edwards or Rich Kotite or someone, and ended up being labeled as "busts". I have nothing against Marty, but do you see a smallish third-round pick named Joe Montana ever seeing the field if Marty had Steve DeBerg playing ahead of him? Would Herm Edwards have ever started Barry Sanders if Barry gained three yards per carry straight over the center time after time?

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

You wonder how many players' careers were made or destroyed by the sheer luck of where they were drafted. You have to figure that there are some guys who could've been hall of famers, but they ended up playing for Herm Edwards or Rich Kotite or someone, and ended up being labeled as "busts". I have nothing against Marty, but do you see a smallish third-round pick named Joe Montana ever seeing the field if Marty had Steve DeBerg playing ahead of him? Would Herm Edwards have ever started Barry Sanders if Barry gained three yards per carry straight over the center time after time?

There's a whole lotta something to this, I think, Mr. Rain Man. One would naturally assume that a particular player would be drafted by a particular coach because that particular coach saw something in that particular player that he particularly liked. But it doesn't always seem to work out that way. Sometimes, that player, for whatever reason, doesn't thrive in that coach's system.

A certain symbiotic relationship has to occur for a player to achieve his ultimate potential. The system or scheme has to be right for his skills and the coaching staff has to allow that player to maximize his strong points while minimizing his shortcomings. It's certainly not unusual for a player to start playing at a high level only until he's with his second or even third team. Joe Horn comes to mind.

As for Mr. GoChiefs' theory, there well may be something to that, as well. I've often wondered if Herm's affinity for young players and rookies has anything to do with the fact that they're a lot easier to bullsh*t. In our case, Trent Green was having none of it and it sure seemed as though our big Willie made a strange decision when he convinced Shields into coming back only to retire himself not long afterwards. Herm strikes me as the kind of guy who can keep a team together so long as they're buying into his story. I've known a lot of guys like that through the years. Unfortunately, once the story has proven to be baseless crap, it's nearly impossible to rally the troops again. If that's the case with Herm, it's doubly important for guys like LJ and Downfield and Gonzo to keep their cool when things are going poorly because the young guys will be looking to them for guidance.

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[Rooster]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

You wonder how many players' careers were made or destroyed by the sheer luck of where they were drafted. You have to figure that there are some guys who could've been hall of famers, but they ended up playing for Herm Edwards or Rich Kotite or someone, and ended up being labeled as "busts". I have nothing against Marty, but do you see a smallish third-round pick named Joe Montana ever seeing the field if Marty had Steve DeBerg playing ahead of him? Would Herm Edwards have ever started Barry Sanders if Barry gained three yards per carry straight over the center time after time?

Very true. I think Marty had a lot to do with Archie Manning not wanting Eli to play in San Diego.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Rooster

Very true. I think Marty had a lot to do with Archie Manning not wanting Eli to play in San Diego.

You know, I never considered that possibility.

Why, Mr. Rooster, do you feel that way? Because of Marty's conservative philosophy? Because of his post-season problems? Because he didn't want Marty cozying up to Eli's women?

FAX

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by FAX

You know, I never considered that possibility.

Why, Mr. Rooster, do you feel that way? Because of Marty's conservative philosophy? Because of his post-season problems? Because he didn't want Marty cozying up to Eli's women?

FAX

I always thought it was because of his conservative philosophy and lack of QB development skills. Marty stealing Eli's women could be the real reason. :-)

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Rooster

I always thought it was because of his conservative philosophy and lack of QB development skills. Marty stealing Eli's women could be the real reason. :-)

Ah. That's logical. It's true that Marty isn't the first name that comes to mind when you say, "quarterback development".

Actually, I never really thought about it, to tell you the truth, Mr. Rooster. I just figured that Archie wanted Eli to go to a market where he could get lots of national press attention. Or, that he preferred an NFC team due to the fact that Countryfied Cretin Cheater Number One is in the AFC. You know, so they wouldn't knock each other out of the playoffs until the very end. Your reason makes more sense, though.

FAX

[kstater]

Utter horseshit. You can blame Huard for quitting. Huard signed a $2.5 million per year contract while Herm was the head coach.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by kstater

Utter horseshit. You can blame Huard for quitting. Huard signed a $2.5 million per year contract while Herm was the head coach.

He signed it before 2007. If only he had known...