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Warner > Manning - Writer says
Wow, I was the first to post that Warner's performance in this year's playoffs have probably earned him a spot in the HOF, but check this out:
Cold Hard Football Facts: Why Warner is better QB than Manning By Kerry J. Byrne, Special to SI.com, ColdHardFootballFacts.com Kurt Warner did more than lift the historically dysfunctional Cardinals franchise into its first Super Bowl on Sunday. He also lifted himself past the Chosen One, Peyton Manning, to right behind Tom Brady on the list of the best quarterbacks in the NFL today. His performance against Philly in the NFC title game was classic big-game Warner, the type we've rarely seen out of Manning in the playoffs. The Eagles entered the NFC title game with one of the league's best defenses: they ranked fourth in scoring (289 points allowed) and fifth in defensive passer rating (72.9). It didn't matter. Warner torched this stingy unit, completing 21 of 28 passes (75 percent) for 279 yards, 9.96 yards per attempt, four touchdowns, no interceptions and a 145.7 passer rating. It was a nearly perfect statistical game. In fact, over the course of the game, Warner jumped past Joe Montana and into second place on the all-time postseason passer rating list: Warner now boasts a 97.3 postseason passer rating; Montana, 95.6. Only the great Bart Starr was better in the playoffs (104.8). That's not to say Warner is a better quarterback than Montana. He's not. Montana did it over more games and was nearly flawless in four Super Bowl victories. But it does tell us that Warner's performances over his unusual 11-year NFL career have been nothing less than historic in their nature. It also tells us that Warner is better than Manning. Complete story here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1 DT |
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OK, lets not get too carried away here.
Just a couple years ago everyone thought that Warner was on his way out of the league because he was sucking so bad. Holding onto the ball too long, crouching taking sacks like Huard does, throwing horrible passes into triple coverage etc. I love the whole Warner story and how hes led the worst franchise ever in sports to the SB, its hard right now to not root for the Cardinals. But this is just another example how stats can be skewed and twisted to try and make for a story (article) |
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Hootie is not going to like this.
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because it's flat out insane.
I like Kurt Warner. A lot. He has played GREAT football this postseason...PHENOMENAL football. He's a great, great, great football player. But come on... I just wish people would watch Peyton Manning play the game...I think he's SO good that people just love to hate him. Every time the Colts fail they blame Manning...and it's crazy. Peyton Manning is easily the best QB in the NFL right now...it's not even close... |
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Hootie, you're spot on. I'm with you 100%. And I'm sure Warner's success this (post)season has had absolutely nothing to do with Larry Fitzgerald. |
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We've had this debate before, so no need to go into detail, but I disagree. Strongly.
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Because Hootie and I might get into it again, I'll state this for the record.
Put Peyton and Tom in a bag, shake 'em up, and I'll be glad to take whichever one steps out first. Seriously, they're both GREAT, and obviously much better than the other QBs in the NFL today. It's Hootie's "Peyton is the GREATEST and Tom is really good and all, but he's just a system QB" argument that gets me annoyed.
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I agree with Hootie here. Tom Brady is great, but I can't shake this feeling that he would not have the same success in a lot of other places. Yes he is one of the biggest reasons for New England's success. But then the NE system is also a big reason for HIS success. We are seeing the success of that system with Cassel too. Manning, on the other hand IS THE COLTS. Had he been in another team with a reasonably competent coaching staff, I think he would have elevated that team to Colts-like success. I give the edge to Manning.
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Kurt Warner's fingers were ****ed up the past few years... they have really taken a beating. It seems like that aren't bothering him much today.
Dunno how that played into his performance, but yeah... with ****ed up fingers its kind of hard to grip the ball and throw it perfectly |
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That's it. I'm casting Ben Affleck in the Holliwoodization of the Kurt Warner Story.
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So when Indy wins it is due to Peyton but when they lose it is due to something else besides Peyton.............................
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And Tom Brady is just a system quarterback who got lucky to get the Greatest Coach in NFL history and have a terrific defense and terrific team around him.
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