Draft Predictions for Chiefs

bigdreams1 · 04-24-2009, 11:10 AM

Chiefs draft Tyson Jackson at #3 or where we trade down to.
LDE Jackson NT Tyler RDE Dorsey (Dockett roll)
LOLB Vravel ILB Johson ILB Thomas ROLB: Hali, Robertson, McBride or draft pick

Tank Tyler was thought to be a 1st round talent at NT when he weighed 323 pounds. I think he put's back on the pounds and can play NT. He played NT at NC State and excelled. He would have been a first rounder if he didn't have the character issues. Tyson Jackson is a big run stuffer and that is what we need. He doesn't need to get sacks. He will free up our LB's to get sacks. I also think that Dorsey is perfect for the RDE position. If you look at Darnell Dockett and how he was used I see this as how they will use Dorsey. I think when you add Jackson to the mix things start looking alot better very quick. I think he is worth a #3 if we cannot trade out of it. Anyone else we pick will be a reach because we already have a QB and LT. Just my 2 cents. Any thoughts?

kcbubb · 04-24-2009, 11:22 AM

I can see how the front seven would like that. I think Turk McBride or Boone can play Tyson Jackson's spot though. I would rather not pick Jackson there bc I think McBride can play there.

bigdreams1 · 04-24-2009, 11:39 AM

I really don't see Mcbride being the run stuffer that Jackson is. Jackson is a beast.

kcbubb · 04-24-2009, 11:44 AM

McBride played DT in college some at TN and he played DT some his first year with the Chiefs. I think that is a good spot for him. Tyson Jackson is a good player and I think that would be a great fit. I just don't see him being worth a #3.

htismaqe · 04-24-2009, 11:50 AM

McBride SHOULD be a 3-4 DE although he's really more of a 4-3 3-technique. That being said, Tyson Jackson is just an all-around better prospect. The last guy out of LSU that was similar to Jackson was Marcus Spears and he's pretty good.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-24-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

McBride SHOULD be a 3-4 DE although he's really more of a 4-3 3-technique. That being said, Tyson Jackson is just an all-around better prospect. The last guy out of LSU that was similar to Jackson was Marcus Spears and he's pretty good.

Marcus Spears has been nothing other than a flat out bust. He's averaging less than 2 sacks and only 35 tackles a year.

htismaqe · 04-24-2009, 12:26 PM

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Marcus Spears has been nothing other than a flat out bust. He's averaging less than 2 sacks and only 35 tackles a year.

He's a 3-4 DE in a 2-gap defense. He has about the stat I would expect. I wasn't a huge Spears fan (I was against us drafting him) but he does in Dallas what they ask him to do. The coaches apparently think he's an integral part of what they do.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-24-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He's a 3-4 DE in a 2-gap defense. He has about the stat I would expect. I wasn't a huge Spears fan (I was against us drafting him) but he does in Dallas what they ask him to do. The coaches apparently think he's an integral part of what they do.

You don't draft role players #3 overall, and Spears is a replacement level starting end in this league...at best. That's awful value for the #20 pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-24-2009, 11:55 AM

Seriously, think about this guys.

You want to give 30 million guaranteed to a guy whose best aspect is that he can stuff the run?

htismaqe · 04-24-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Seriously, think about this guys.

You want to give 30 million guaranteed to a guy whose best aspect is that he can stuff the run?

Who else would you give it to?

We're running out of options, not that any of them were good to begin with.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-24-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Who else would you give it to?

We're running out of options, not that any of them were good to begin with.

It's pretty simple.

You flip Cassel for more than what you paid and you draft Sanchez/Stafford.

It was the right move two months ago, and it's the right move now.

**the Talking Can** · 04-24-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's pretty simple.

You flip Cassel for more than what you paid and you draft Sanchez/Stafford.

It was the right move two months ago, and it's the right move now.

there is a 0 percent chance of that happening

MoreLemonPledge · 04-24-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

there is a 0 percent chance of that happening

I recommend not getting into it. I've tried.

RippedmyFlesh · 04-24-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

there is a 0 percent chance of that happening

Agree
But the other way around is possible.

htismaqe · 04-24-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's pretty simple.

You flip Cassel for more than what you paid and you draft Sanchez/Stafford.

It was the right move two months ago, and it's the right move now.

I'd love to do that.

But I don't get the feeling they will.

I've resigned myself to the fact that they've hitched their wagon to Cassel.

04-24-2009, 11:10 AM	Topic Starter
bigdreams1 Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Casino cash: $10004900	Draft Predictions for Chiefs Chiefs draft Tyson Jackson at #3 or where we trade down to. LDE Jackson NT Tyler RDE Dorsey (Dockett roll) LOLB Vravel ILB Johson ILB Thomas ROLB: Hali, Robertson, McBride or draft pick Tank Tyler was thought to be a 1st round talent at NT when he weighed 323 pounds. I think he put's back on the pounds and can play NT. He played NT at NC State and excelled. He would have been a first rounder if he didn't have the character issues. Tyson Jackson is a big run stuffer and that is what we need. He doesn't need to get sacks. He will free up our LB's to get sacks. I also think that Dorsey is perfect for the RDE position. If you look at Darnell Dockett and how he was used I see this as how they will use Dorsey. I think when you add Jackson to the mix things start looking alot better very quick. I think he is worth a #3 if we cannot trade out of it. Anyone else we pick will be a reach because we already have a QB and LT. Just my 2 cents. Any thoughts?
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04-24-2009, 11:44 AM	#4
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $5016719	McBride played DT in college some at TN and he played DT some his first year with the Chiefs. I think that is a good spot for him. Tyson Jackson is a good player and I think that would be a great fit. I just don't see him being worth a #3.
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04-24-2009, 11:50 AM	#5
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8129900	McBride SHOULD be a 3-4 DE although he's really more of a 4-3 3-technique. That being said, Tyson Jackson is just an all-around better prospect. The last guy out of LSU that was similar to Jackson was Marcus Spears and he's pretty good.
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04-24-2009, 11:55 AM	#9
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	Seriously, think about this guys. You want to give 30 million guaranteed to a guy whose best aspect is that he can stuff the run? __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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04-24-2009, 11:22 AM	#2
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $5016719	I can see how the front seven would like that. I think Turk McBride or Boone can play Tyson Jackson's spot though. I would rather not pick Jackson there bc I think McBride can play there.
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04-24-2009, 11:39 AM	#3
bigdreams1 Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Casino cash: $10004900	I really don't see Mcbride being the run stuffer that Jackson is. Jackson is a beast.
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