Chiefs To Juice or Not to Juice

harpes · 10-09-2009, 10:37 AM

Let me start off by saying that back in 80's I did more than my fair share of cycles and fortunatly didnt have any major side effects. Now I have a son playing JUCO and has all the talent and speed to go Div. 1 but size wise he still needs to add some size. He has worked his butt off with the strength coach and has the right diet but his gains have stopped and his doesnt think 180 CB will last long in the big leagues. He has his own money and is determined to buy some roids off the internet and start stacking. Its not like our day when we would use horse steroids or whatever and never gave it thought. He knows what could happen but like all dumb a$$ kids thinks it wont happen to him. I've thought about having the trainer speak with him but he is an adult and if he doesnt make it, then dad will be the one that kept him from his dreams. Does anyone have any ideas or suggesions on alternatives that would be healthier. God only knows what comes in internet steroids

**Buck** · 10-09-2009, 10:39 AM

Tell him, "DO IT, PUSSY!"

Demonpenz · 10-09-2009, 10:39 AM

make sure he works out in his bad idea jeans

Dayze · 10-09-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

make sure he works out in his bad idea jeans

**loochy** · 10-09-2009, 10:57 AM

If he is insisting on doing it, have him go to a doctor. Have him tell the doctor straight up that he is juicing and he needs to keep an eye on his liver, cholesterol. Also make sure he knows proper injecting technique (i.e. always aspirate before squeezing the plunger, always use new needles, thoroughly clean the area, stay away from arteries, veins, and nerves, etc.). The doctor won't squeal on him, but if he's already dead set on it, this could prevent worse problems.

BY1401 · 10-09-2009, 10:59 AM

Tell him to mainline that shit or he isn't a real man.

Brock · 10-09-2009, 10:40 AM

Cheat to win, Eddie!

Bill Lundberg · 10-09-2009, 10:41 AM

Personally, I think you're crazy if you let him shoot himself up period, and even more crazy letting him shoot up with something he bought online.

Bottom line is you objecting is you being a responsible parent. If he doesn't "make it" it's not because he didn't do steroids, it's because he wasn't good enough.

Fish · 10-09-2009, 10:50 AM

If you don't have the frame to make it, then sometimes you just have to accept that. I understand that really sucks. But you only have what God gave you. You can't force anything more and expect good results. I've seen too many friends in this situation and they end up with a changed personality and still end up not making it anyway. And once the got big, they had to keep it up for fear of shrinking again.

I'd strongly advise against this. But I understand why he wants to. Tough situation.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-09-2009, 10:55 AM

He's a kid. 180 isn't small for a CB. It's not HUGE, but he certainly has time to grow.

There are enough over the counter supplements and nutritionists out there that can help him get over the hump. If he's plateaued, it's because he's doing the wrong training regime.

You need to get him help in the areas of training and nutrition, not look the other way so he can buy 'roids off the internet.

That's a totally irresponsible move on your part and could have serious and even deadly consequences for your son.

Don't do it.

topher79 · 10-09-2009, 10:59 AM

Work harder. No offense but roids are for losers. If you use roids you're admitting you're not good enough and if you go through life with that attitude you won't get far anyway.

wild1 · 10-09-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's a kid. 180 isn't small for a CB. It's not HUGE, but he certainly has time to grow.

There are enough over the counter supplements and nutritionists out there that can help him get over the hump. If he's plateaued, it's because he's doing the wrong training regime.

You need to get him help in the areas of training and nutrition, not look the other way so he can buy 'roids off the internet.

That's a totally irresponsible move on your part and could have serious and even deadly consequences for your son.

Don't do it.

No kidding.

If the kid was on heroin you'd do something. It's abuse/neglect of a minor if he's 17 and not 20.

It's revolting that this is even a matter up for discussion.

BWillie · 10-09-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's a kid. 180 isn't small for a CB. It's not HUGE, but he certainly has time to grow.

There are enough over the counter supplements and nutritionists out there that can help him get over the hump. If he's plateaued, it's because he's doing the wrong training regime.

You need to get him help in the areas of training and nutrition, not look the other way so he can buy 'roids off the internet.

That's a totally irresponsible move on your part and could have serious and even deadly consequences for your son.

Don't do it.

Exactly. What is he a high school senior? With the correct training and nutrition alot of guys ad 30-40 lbs once they get to college.

I was 122 lbs when I was 18. By the time I was 22 I was 185 lbs and benching about 300 lbs. BTW, there are plenty of defensive backs that are 170-185 lbs in D1.

You seem to think allowing him to take roids is an option. It's not.

booyaf2 · 10-09-2009, 10:57 AM

Yeah,
Cause if he doesn't make a living playing football, what ever will he do.

ChiefsCountry · 10-09-2009, 10:57 AM

If he has to take the juice to be a D1 athlete, then he really isn't one. Really a ****ing stupid decision.

10-09-2009, 10:37 AM	Topic Starter
harpes Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Baxter Springs Ks Casino cash: $10004900	To Juice or Not to Juice Let me start off by saying that back in 80's I did more than my fair share of cycles and fortunatly didnt have any major side effects. Now I have a son playing JUCO and has all the talent and speed to go Div. 1 but size wise he still needs to add some size. He has worked his butt off with the strength coach and has the right diet but his gains have stopped and his doesnt think 180 CB will last long in the big leagues. He has his own money and is determined to buy some roids off the internet and start stacking. Its not like our day when we would use horse steroids or whatever and never gave it thought. He knows what could happen but like all dumb a$$ kids thinks it wont happen to him. I've thought about having the trainer speak with him but he is an adult and if he doesnt make it, then dad will be the one that kept him from his dreams. Does anyone have any ideas or suggesions on alternatives that would be healthier. God only knows what comes in internet steroids
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10-09-2009, 10:39 AM	#2
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10-09-2009, 10:57 AM	#5
loochy Hey Loochy, I'm hooome! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PooPooKaKaPeePeeShire Casino cash: $-1609603	If he is insisting on doing it, have him go to a doctor. Have him tell the doctor straight up that he is juicing and he needs to keep an eye on his liver, cholesterol. Also make sure he knows proper injecting technique (i.e. always aspirate before squeezing the plunger, always use new needles, thoroughly clean the area, stay away from arteries, veins, and nerves, etc.). The doctor won't squeal on him, but if he's already dead set on it, this could prevent worse problems.
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10-09-2009, 10:59 AM	#6
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10-09-2009, 10:41 AM	#8
Bill Lundberg American Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10004925	Personally, I think you're crazy if you let him shoot himself up period, and even more crazy letting him shoot up with something he bought online. Bottom line is you objecting is you being a responsible parent. If he doesn't "make it" it's not because he didn't do steroids, it's because he wasn't good enough.
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10-09-2009, 10:50 AM	#9
Fish Ain't no relax! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $-1311081	If you don't have the frame to make it, then sometimes you just have to accept that. I understand that really sucks. But you only have what God gave you. You can't force anything more and expect good results. I've seen too many friends in this situation and they end up with a changed personality and still end up not making it anyway. And once the got big, they had to keep it up for fear of shrinking again. I'd strongly advise against this. But I understand why he wants to. Tough situation. __________________
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10-09-2009, 10:55 AM	#10
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	He's a kid. 180 isn't small for a CB. It's not HUGE, but he certainly has time to grow. There are enough over the counter supplements and nutritionists out there that can help him get over the hump. If he's plateaued, it's because he's doing the wrong training regime. You need to get him help in the areas of training and nutrition, not look the other way so he can buy 'roids off the internet. That's a totally irresponsible move on your part and could have serious and even deadly consequences for your son. Don't do it.
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10-09-2009, 10:59 AM	#11
topher79 Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Work harder. No offense but roids are for losers. If you use roids you're admitting you're not good enough and if you go through life with that attitude you won't get far anyway.
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booyaf2 Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hays KS Casino cash: $-2144995	Yeah, Cause if he doesn't make a living playing football, what ever will he do.
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10-09-2009, 10:57 AM	#15
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1451248	If he has to take the juice to be a D1 athlete, then he really isn't one. Really a ****ing stupid decision.
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