I know everyone on CP hates Cassel.....

[Three7s]

So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?

[KurtCobain]

If he throws two accurate passes in a game I'll back off.

[CaliforniaChief]

I think it's just the killer mental mistakes that get me. Taking horrible sacks that either make a manageable field goal tough, or ones that cause fumbles.

And yeah, he's just not a terribly accurate QB. Although man, if he could recreate that deep slant to Bowe in the end zone against the Raiders I'd take that every time.

[The Franchise]

1. Doesn't rack up all of his yardage and TDs in garbage time.
2. Stops overthrowing/underthrowing his WRs.
3. Actually completes a game winning drive.
4. Stops looking like a douchebag when he's on camera.
5. Stops taking unnecessary sacks and learns when to throw the ball away.
6. Stops getting happy feet in the pocket and freaking out when there is the slightest bit of pressure.

[KurtCobain]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

3. Actually completes a game winning drive.

Hasn't he done this?

[kaplin42]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

1. Doesn't rack up all of his yardage and TDs in garbage time.
2. Stops overthrowing/underthrowing his WRs.
3. Actually completes a game winning drive.
4. Stops looking like a douchebag when he's on camera.
5. Stops taking unnecessary sacks and learns when to throw the ball away.
6. Stops getting happy feet in the pocket and freaking out when there is the slightest bit of pressure.

7. Stop shitting himself when the game is on the line
8. Stop throwing balls 3 yds short on a 5 yard pass for a first down on 3rd down.
9. Learn to read a defense
10. Learn to progress through his recievers
11. Stop being a fail high school QB, and be the $60 Million dollar QB he is getting paid to be.

[teedubya]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

1. Doesn't rack up all of his yardage and TDs in garbage time.
2. Stops overthrowing/underthrowing his WRs.
3. Actually completes a game winning drive.
4. Stops looking like a douchebag when he's on camera.
5. Stops taking unnecessary sacks and learns when to throw the ball away.
6. Stops getting happy feet in the pocket and freaking out when there is the slightest bit of pressure.

[LOCOChief]

[QUOTE=Pestilence;7177924]1. Doesn't rack up all of his yardage and TDs in garbage time.
2. Stops overthrowing/underthrowing his WRs.
3. Actually completes a game winning drive.
4. Stops looking like a douchebag when he's on camera.
5. Stops taking unnecessary sacks and learns when to throw the ball away.
6. Stops getting happy feet in the pocket and freaking out when there is the slightest bit of pressure.[/QUOTE


1-6 spot on, anything short is Cassel

[Chiefnj2]

Nothing he can do will change people's minds.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Nothing he can do will change people's minds.

not true at all.

people in KC bashed the hell out of trent green in 2001.

In 2002 he turned things around because he got help around him, and he became a good solid QB to the point ''most'' people in KC liked him. Not to mention he's a class act and intelligent individual (not that MC isn't).

Point is, Green was able to improve and Cassel isn't. People are pissed off he was paid a ton of money to shit the bed.

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

not true at all.

people in KC bashed the hell out of trent green in 2001.

In 2002 he turned things around because he got help around him, and he became a good solid QB to the point ''most'' people in KC liked him. Not to mention he's a class act and intelligent individual (not that MC isn't).

Point is, Green was able to improve and Cassel isn't. People are pissed off he was paid a ton of money to shit the bed.

Meh, there was still a lot of dissatisfaction with Green, primarily because he was an aging QB with an injury history that we traded a high first round pick for. Even when he did get in a groove and started putting up big numbers, people liked to look at the fact that we weren't consistently winning games, until we went 13-3, and even at that point the argument was being made that there were many QB's who could thrive with an offensive line like we had that gave him all day to throw and Priest Holmes/LJ in the backfield.

Point being, yes most people eventually warmed up to him, but he never seemed to be "loved."

I think there are a lot of people who really just want to see this team develop a young QB from the beginning. I think someone like Matt Ryan would be someone that KC would "love" as a QB, that goes without saying. But there's probably a sentiment out there that would love even more for this team to take someone hidden gem in the mid rounds, and have him come out of nowhere to become a star. If a Tom Brady happened here, they would own this town like no one else had.

I think it's quite possible that if Cassel had been drafted by the Chiefs in round 7 and he was a 23 year old in his second season playing like this on a minimum contract, the majority of fans would be fine with what's going on out there, excited that this is a hardworking guy who is putting in the work to get better and expecting an upward curve, and we'd look past a lot of the shortcomings. But that's obviously not the situation.

I think at the end of the day, we as Chiefs fans have been through so many let downs, that we want to look at our QB and see the face of the franchise and know that whatever happens, that guy gives us the confidence that we've got a great shot at winning Sunday. Right now however, we look at Matt Cassel and see a highly paid QB from another franchise who is expected to be a "game manager" while we try to win ugly. That doesn't inspire confidence, and definitely doesn't inspire the love of a fanbase...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

Meh, there was still a lot of dissatisfaction with Green, primarily because he was an aging QB with an injury history that we traded a high first round pick for. Even when he did get in a groove and started putting up big numbers, people liked to look at the fact that we weren't consistently winning games, until we went 13-3, and even at that point the argument was being made that there were many QB's who could thrive with an offensive line like we had that gave him all day to throw and Priest Holmes/LJ in the backfield.

Point being, yes most people eventually warmed up to him, but he never seemed to be "loved."

I think there are a lot of people who really just want to see this team develop a young QB from the beginning. I think someone like Matt Ryan would be someone that KC would "love" as a QB, that goes without saying. But there's probably a sentiment out there that would love even more for this team to take someone hidden gem in the mid rounds, and have him come out of nowhere to become a star. If a Tom Brady happened here, they would own this town like no one else had.

I think it's quite possible that if Cassel had been drafted by the Chiefs in round 7 and he was a 23 year old in his second season playing like this on a minimum contract, the majority of fans would be fine with what's going on out there, excited that this is a hardworking guy who is putting in the work to get better and expecting an upward curve, and we'd look past a lot of the shortcomings. But that's obviously not the situation.

I think at the end of the day, we as Chiefs fans have been through so many let downs, that we want to look at our QB and see the face of the franchise and know that whatever happens, that guy gives us the confidence that we've got a great shot at winning Sunday. Right now however, we look at Matt Cassel and see a highly paid QB from another franchise who is expected to be a "game manager" while we try to win ugly. That doesn't inspire confidence, and definitely doesn't inspire the love of a fanbase...

I think there is some truth to this, but at the same time, if Cassel had come in and played like someone who had sat a learned for three years, then he might be looked on more favorably.

He should have been more advanced than he was.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Nothing he can do will change people's minds.

Pretty much.

[FRCDFED]

Watch Sam Bradford the "rookie" QB for the Rams. All he has to do is play like Bradford. The guy has nerves of steel, always makes the right pre/post snap reads, throws with zip on the ball, doesn't over/under throw his receivers, and can put the team on his back and carry them. All this from a rookie!

That is all!

[Estron]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Nothing he can do will change people's minds.

I'm inclined to think this, after several weeks of reading here.

If Matt Cassel were to call a press conference tomorrow and announce that he was resigning from football, effective immediately AND donating what he's already been paid to widows and orphans, the guys on CP would be posting, "Not enough. He should commit suicide. In the stadium. On camera."