Chiefs Teicher:Weis says it’s coincidence offense sputters after he accepts Florida job

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-03-2011, 01:54 AM

Weis says it’s coincidence offense sputters after he accepts Florida job
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Offensive coordinator Charlie Weis will be leaving Kansas City the day after the season ends to take the same position at the University of Florida, but he said his new job won’t be a distraction for him as the Chiefs prepare for the playoffs.

“I will do everything I can to help the Chiefs be successful,” Weis said after the Chiefs lost 31-10 to Oakland on Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium in their final regular-season game. “I’m working for the Chiefs as long as we can make this work. Now that we’re in the tournament, I’m hoping we play until February.”

The Chiefs played one of their worst offensive games of the season one day after Weis accepted the Florida position.

Weis said that was mere coincidence and that his preparation for the Oakland game didn’t suffer because he was talking to the Gators.

“I didn’t even talk about the job (with Florida) until I got home at 10 o’clock at night,” said Weis, who was offensive coordinator during a Super Bowl championship run with the Patriots in 2005 after becoming the head coach at Notre Dame.

“I’ve gone through this once before, so I have a very good reference on how to separate family business from work.

“It was even worse then. I was recruiting from 8 to 11 every night but working up until 8 and on until 2 afterwards to do my job with the Patriots.”

Weis said his relationship with head coach Todd Haley has not deteriorated as has been speculated.

“I almost get offended when people say that,” Weis said. “People always want to look for a different angle for why you’re doing this. Scott (Pioli), Todd (Haley), Clark (Hunt), they brought me in to Kansas City when I was sitting at home in South Bend. I’ll be forever grateful for the opportunity I had to come here as the offensive coordinator and I’ll always wish them well.

“But this decision had absolutely zero to do with relationships in Kansas City.”

Weis and Haley worked together with the New York Jets for three years in the late 1990s, Weis as receivers coach and then the offensive coordinator and Haley as an offensive assistant.

At that time, Haley took some of his orders from Weis. That changed last winter when Haley hired Weis as offensive coordinator.

Asked to describe his working relationship with Haley, Weis said: “He’s the head coach, and I’m the offensive coordinator. We’ve known each other forever. Todd and I grew up under the same tree. We understand the way of doing business. It’s kind of interesting for me to reflect on how we’ve grown in the last decade or so since we’ve worked together.

“When you’re the boss, you’re the boss. When you’re an assistant, you’re an assistant. He’s definitely the boss, and I’m definitely the offensive coordinator. I think we had a very good understanding of what our roles were without any reservation.”

Weis indicated family matters played a large role in his decision. Weis is a friend of new Florida head coach Will Muschamp.

Weis’ son Charlie will soon graduate from St. Pius X High School in Kansas City and will attend Florida, where he will be an assistant coach for the Gators while attending school.

“This was a really tough decision for the Weis family,” Weis said. “This opportunity is one of those unique situations where I can go to a great institution where my son goes to matriculate and be able to spend the next bunch of years watching my son grow.

“He wants to coach. It took us very long to try to find a place where he could be involved with the football program in a student assistant capacity. At the end of the day, I don’t think anybody could understand how wonderful an opportunity it would be to be able to work at a place and see your kid on a daily basis.”

Haley said despite what happened against the Raiders he was satisfied Weis would be effective working for the Chiefs after taking the Florida job.

“Charlie is a professional,” Haley said. “Charlie has been through a similar situation back a few years ago. . . He, being a professional, did his job to the fullest to help the team win a Super Bowl.

“I have the utmost confidence that’s what will go on here.”

Ugly Duck · 01-03-2011, 03:14 AM

"Their poor offensive showing came in the hours after offensive coordinator Charlie Weis decided to leave the team to take the same position at the University of Florida. He will be formally introduced in Gainesville, Fla., on Monday. Several Kansas City players said that Weis’ decision had no impact on their flat performance Sunday. They pointed to the fact that the game plan was installed and the practice week was concluded before Weis’ departure as reasons for it having no bearing on the outcome of the game."

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...o-the-playoffs

jidar · 01-03-2011, 04:40 AM

I'm inclined to agree.

The same thing happened the last time we played the Raiders. It's a game of matchups.

beach tribe · 01-03-2011, 06:52 AM

For some reason I believe Wies over a bunch of kneejerk speculators.

Call me crazy.

InChiefsHeaven · 01-03-2011, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

For some reason I believe Wies over a bunch of kneejerk speculators.

Call me crazy.

You are crazy...but so am I. I really think the Mellinger article is so much bullshit...it's all speculation. Weiss says it, Todd says it, but they MUST both be lying because the administration at 1 Arrowhead Drive is evil...

**Bugeater** · 01-03-2011, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

You are crazy...but so am I. I really think the Mellinger article is so much bullshit...it's all speculation. Weiss says it, Todd says it, but they MUST both be lying because the administration at 1 Arrowhead Drive is evil...

Yeah, because if there was some kind of internal strife, I am totally sure they would come right out and admit it. Usually in these instances the truth is somewhere in between the two extremes.

MIAdragon · 01-03-2011, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Yeah, because if there was some kind of internal strife, I am totally sure they would come right out and admit it. Usually in these instances the truth is somewhere in between the two extremes.

Don't get all crazy now!

RINGLEADER · 01-03-2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Yeah, because if there was some kind of internal strife, I am totally sure they would come right out and admit it. Usually in these instances the truth is somewhere in between the two extremes.

Prove it.

You can't.

Because all the evidence is to the contrary.

When a third-party, ANYONE, with actual knowledge of the situation says otherwise then I'll re-evaluate the reasons but until that time the media is talking out of their azzes...

siberian khatru · 01-03-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Prove it.

You can't.

Because all the evidence is to the contrary.

When a third-party, ANYONE, with actual knowledge of the situation says otherwise then I'll re-evaluate the reasons but until that time the media is talking out of their azzes...

They can start by having someone speak off the record. Anonymous sources are dicey, but in this case that would be a step up from what we have now, which is mostly speculation sprinkled with third-hand gossip in the most general terms.

Get a source. Someone who says Haley and Weis barely speak to each other anymore, or that they had a huge blowup last month and had to be separated, or that Haley was taking the finished game plans and red-penning them behind Weis' back or something. Something akin to Whitlock's "22 guys off the street" comment Haley supposedly made to Waters.

RINGLEADER · 01-03-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

For some reason I believe Wies over a bunch of kneejerk speculators.

Call me crazy.

But there's absolutely no way it could be anything but differences over the direction of the offense...and anyone who says otherwise is just stupid -- even Weis -- like he would really know what goes on in his own head...

memyselfI · 01-03-2011, 07:28 AM

HELLO, it is better if it was the announcement vs. something fundamentally wrong with the offense.

**Iowanian** · 01-03-2011, 08:40 AM

Yeah....the offense didn't look at all like the coordinator spent last week interviewing and considering a job and move instead of planning for this game.

I believe that didn't have an impact about as much as I believe gravy wouldn't spill out if someone cut him.

I can only hope he brings as much success to Florida as he did Notre Dame, though the Gators likely have a higher salary cap expense than the Chiefs, so that helps.

**RealSNR** · 01-03-2011, 08:58 AM

Good lord... cut the umbilical cord already, Charlie. Your kid's in college. Let him do what he wants without da-da breathing from behind his shoulder getting fried chicken crumbs on his clothes.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-03-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Good lord... cut the umbilical cord already, Charlie. Your kid's in college. Let him do what he wants without da-da breathing from behind his shoulder getting fried chicken crumbs on his clothes.

Apparently Weis, Jr. is a chip off the old block and isn't real interested in the total college experience, he just wants to go to class and work in the football department.

All of this started materializing when the Weis clan paid a visit to Mack Brown and Muschamp about getting jr. to work at Texas. From then, Muschamp kept in close contact with Charlie and it dominoed from there.

**RealSNR** · 01-03-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Apparently Weis, Jr. is a chip off the old block and isn't real interested in the total college experience, he just wants to go to class and work in the football department.

All of this started materializing when the Weis clan paid a visit to Mack Brown and Muschamp about getting jr. to work at Texas. From then, Muschamp kept in close contact with Charlie and it dominoed from there.

Ah. So I'm assuming that it's not Charlie Sr we should worry about but Charlie Jr.

Fried chicken crumbs can be easily cleaned up, but fried chicken grease on playbooks and the like... those stains simply do not come out

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Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1788454	Yeah....the offense didn't look at all like the coordinator spent last week interviewing and considering a job and move instead of planning for this game. I believe that didn't have an impact about as much as I believe gravy wouldn't spill out if someone cut him. I can only hope he brings as much success to Florida as he did Notre Dame, though the Gators likely have a higher salary cap expense than the Chiefs, so that helps.
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