Chiefs ESPN's Bill Williamson Ranks AFCW's Top 40 Players

CoMoChief · 07-23-2011, 11:07 AM

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...n-the-afc-west

1. Philip Rivers, San Diego: He is an elite player at the most important position on the field.

2. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland: There’s a reason he’ll be the top prize in free agency.

3. Jamaal Charles, Kansas City: One of the NFL’s most dynamic young players.

4. Antonio Gates, San Diego: He should end up in Canton.

5. Tamba Hali, Kansas City: One of the NFL’s best defensive players.

6. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City: He is a game-changing talent.

7. Richard Seymour, Oakland: Respected veteran changed Oakland’s defense.

8. Vincent Jackson, San Diego: Expect a strong rebound in 2011.

9. Ryan Clady, Denver: One of the game's premier left tackles.

10. Champ Bailey, Denver: Even at 33, he is special.

11. Eric Berry, Kansas City: He should be the game’s best safety soon.

12. Nick Hardwick, San Diego: An anchor to a strong offensive line.

13. Darren McFadden, Oakland: He is developing into a star.

=> 14. Matt Cassel, Kansas City: Cassel has to continue to make strides.

15. Zach Miller, Oakland: He can make Oakland’s offense special.

16. Derrick Johnson, Kansas City: He is a serious playmaker.

17. Quentin Jammer, San Diego: Solid veteran is an anchor to a good defense.

18. Kris Dielman, San Diego: A steady hand on the Chargers’ line.

19. D.J. Williams, Denver: He is a tackling machine.

20. Marcus McNeill, San Diego: He’s an upper-echelon left tackle.

21. Shaun Phillips, San Diego: He is one of the division’s best pass-rushers.

22. Brandon Flowers, Kansas City: One of the game’s best young cornerbacks.

23. Eric Weddle, San Diego: A hard-nosed playmaker at safety.

24. Glenn Dorsey, Kansas City: He came on strong in 2010.

25. Tommy Kelly, Oakland: Massive defensive tackle had a big season in 2010.

26. Elvis Dumervil, Denver: If Dumervil bounces back from sitting out in 2010, he should be ranked higher next year.

27. Rolando McClain, Oakland: McClain has a chance to be one of the division’s better linebackers.

28. Brandon Lloyd, Denver: Lloyd came out of nowhere for a special 2010.

29. Shane Lechler, Oakland: The game’s best kicking specialist.

30. Ryan Lilja, Kansas City: A gritty, tough veteran guard.

31. Malcom Floyd, San Diego: He can make the spectacular catch look easy.

32. Brian Waters, Kansas City: A great veteran presence on a good line.

33. Jason Campbell, Oakland: Oakland will be depending on Campbell a lot this season.

34. Kamerion Wimbley, Oakland: He can get sacks in bunches.

35. Tony Moeaki, Kansas City: Second-year tight end is a player to watch.

36. Lamarr Houston, Oakland: He has a chance to be special.

37. Antonio Garay, San Diego: He had a strong 2010 season at 31.

38. Ryan Mathews, San Diego: He showed flashes as a rookie.

39. Michael Bush, Oakland: He and McFadden form a nice tandem.

40. Thomas Jones, Kansas City: He can still help the Chiefs at 33.

Dante84 · 07-23-2011, 11:12 AM

KC 12
SD 12
Oak 11
Den 5

Quesadilla Joe · 07-23-2011, 05:18 PM

The media are just a bunch of what have you done for me lately assholes.... Elvis Dumervil has been getting shafted on all kinds of these lists. There is no way Tamba Hali should be higher than him, let alone 20+ spots higher. DOOM and Hali were both drafted in 06 and DOOM has more career sacks than Hali, DESPITE missing an entire season and playing the whole 2008 season with a broken bone in his hand.

**RealSNR** · 07-23-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The media are just a bunch of what have you done for me lately assholes.... Elvis Dumervil has been getting shafted on all kinds of these lists. There is no way Tamba Hali should be higher than him, let alone 20+ spots higher. DOOM and Hali were both drafted in 06 and DOOM has more career sacks than Hali, DESPITE missing an entire season and playing the whole 2008 season with a broken bone in his hand.

Whenever you post something, I have this tune going through my head

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-23-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Whenever you post something, I have this tune going through my head

The little fella thought Denver was a Super Bowl contender last year. No wonder he only watched 4 games

Backwards Masking · 07-23-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Elvis Dumervil has been getting shafted on all kinds of these lists. There is no way Tamba Hali should be higher than him, let alone 20+ spots higher. DOOM and Hali were both drafted in 06 and DOOM has more career sacks than Hali, DESPITE missing an entire season and playing the whole 2008 season with a broken bone in his hand.

He's had injury problems his whole career, that's probably why he was ranked so low. And it is "what have you done for me lately league" like it or not. Elvis was injured most of last year, so he's a question mark coming into this year. The why he's so much lower than Tamba, who had a monster 2010.

That said, when healthy, Elvis is a top notch DE, at least he certainly was in 2009. If his 2011 season comes close to 2009, he'll be back in the top 10. Though he still won't be higher than Tamba

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beach tribe · 07-23-2011, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The media are just a bunch of what have you done for me lately assholes.... Elvis Dumervil has been getting shafted on all kinds of these lists. There is no way Tamba Hali should be higher than him, let alone 20+ spots higher. DOOM and Hali were both drafted in 06 and DOOM has more career sacks than Hali, DESPITE missing an entire season and playing the whole 2008 season with a broken bone in his hand.

It's a list of who is better NOW.

Not who WAS better in 2009.

Hali did have 15 ****ing sacks last season, and countless pressures.
If Houston is what I think he is, Hali is going to be an absolute terror.
Maybe Dumberville will have healed up by next season........Maybe.

Param · 07-24-2011, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The media are just a bunch of what have you done for me lately assholes.... Elvis Dumervil has been getting shafted on all kinds of these lists. There is no way Tamba Hali should be higher than him, let alone 20+ spots higher. DOOM and Hali were both drafted in 06 and DOOM has more career sacks than Hali, DESPITE missing an entire season and playing the whole 2008 season with a broken bone in his hand.

Elvis missed the entire season. Hali produced last year. You can't rank an injured player very high when he could come back and bust.

DBOSHO · 07-24-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The media are just a bunch of what have you done for me lately assholes.... Elvis Dumervil has been getting shafted on all kinds of these lists. There is no way Tamba Hali should be higher than him, let alone 20+ spots higher. DOOM and Hali were both drafted in 06 and DOOM has more career sacks than Hali, DESPITE missing an entire season and playing the whole 2008 season with a broken bone in his hand.

Dont even try to pull the "what have you done for me lately" card.

Nobody ever heard of Dumervil before the 09 season.

Quesadilla Joe · 07-24-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Dont even try to pull the "what have you done for me lately" card.

Nobody ever heard of Dumervil before the 09 season.

Don't know how that is possible. Doom did have 20 sacks his first two years in the league.

Ugly Duck · 07-26-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Dont even try to pull the "what have you done for me lately" card.

I hate it when people factor in a player's prior-season performance when rating them. What they did last season should have no bearing on how good a player is considered to be. Moreno could outpace Jamaal Charles this season. DHB could outpace Bowe. Tebow could learn to be a QB. Well... its possible...

**Rausch** · 07-26-2011, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

I hate it when people factor in a player's prior-season performance when rating them. What they did last season should have no bearing on how good a player is considered to be.

**RealSNR** · 07-26-2011, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

I hate it when people factor in a player's prior-season performance when rating them. What they did last season should have no bearing on how good a player is considered to be. Moreno could outpace Jamaal Charles this season. DHB could outpace Bowe. Tebow could learn to be a QB. Well... its possible...

All hail Tebow, King of the Boos

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-26-2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

I hate it when people factor in a player's prior-season performance when rating them. What they did last season should have no bearing on how good a player is considered to be. Moreno could outpace Jamaal Charles this season. DHB could outpace Bowe. Tebow could learn to be a QB. Well... its possible...

That POS couldn't outpace a studebaker.

**Rausch** · 07-23-2011, 11:14 AM

Flowers is the most polished, most consistent, and effective veteran on this team.

Period...

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