Chiefs 2011 Draft Class This Year

Direckshun · 11-30-2011, 11:56 AM

Grade each pick best as you can.

Then provide the grade for the overall draft.

1st round: WR Johnny Baldwin

2nd round: OG/C Rodney Hudson

3rd round: OLB Justin Houston

3rd round: DE Allen Bailey

4th round: CB Jalil Brown

5th round: QB Ricky Stanzi

5th round: OLB Gabe Miller

6th round: NT Jerrell Powe

7th round: FB Shane Bannon

Direckshun · 11-30-2011, 11:59 AM

A Grades
WR Johnny Baldwin
OG Rodney Hudson

B Grades
OLB Justin Houston
DE Allen Bailey
QB Ricky Stanzi

C Grades
CB Jalil Brown
NT Jerrell Powe

D Grades
Gabe Miller

F Grades
Shane Bannon

While this is obviously all still incomplete, I give the whole draft a B as of now.

Slight downgrade from the A I thought this draft was on draft day.

Quesadilla Joe · 12-01-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

A Grades
WR Johnny Baldwin
OG Rodney Hudson

B Grades
OLB Justin Houston
DE Allen Bailey
QB Ricky Stanzi

C Grades
CB Jalil Brown
NT Jerrell Powe

D Grades
Gabe Miller

F Grades
Shane Bannon

While this is obviously all still incomplete, I give the whole draft a B as of now.

Slight downgrade from the A I thought this draft was on draft day.

I don't see how you can give anyone in your rookie class an A grade. Von Miller, Demarco Murray, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cam Newton, and Andy Dalton are "A grade" players.

I think every grade on every one of your players should be dropped down 1 letter grade.

My Broncos grades

A Grades
Von Miller- no description necessary

B Grades
RT Orlando Franklin - has struggled in pass pro but is a stud in the run game and has started every game

S Quinton Carter- 4th round pick who has earned a starting job and is a sure tackler who has helped the defense.

C Grades
TE Virgil Green - Excellent in the run game and has been more than worth the 7th round pick we used to get him

D Grades
S Rahim Moore - Was supposed to be a playmaker but hasn't made any plays, is a poor tackler who was beat out of his starting job by a safety drafted two rounds below him

MLB Nate Irving - Was drafted to be a starter, hasn't done much even on special teams. Not a huge let down though.

TE Julius Thomas - He has just been injured and hasn't been given much of a shot. Not a bad pick, still has a lot of upside. Is getting a D grade just because he can't get on the field.

Not worthy of a grade

DE Jeremy Beal and LB Mike Mohammed - 6th and 7th round picks who nothing much was expected of, Mohammed has been on the practice squad and has just now been bumped to the active roster.

Hammock Parties · 12-01-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

B Grades
RT Orlando Franklin - has struggled in pass pro but is a stud in the run game and has started every game

PFF rates him as the 60th best run blocker and the 57th best pass blocker.

He's a turd.

Quesadilla Joe · 12-01-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega

PFF rates him as the 60th best run blocker and the 57th best pass blocker.

He's a turd.

I disagree. We were the 23rd ranked rush offense in the NFL last year and are ranked #1 in the NFL this year... The only change on the offensive line is Orlando Franklin.

Hammock Parties · 12-01-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I disagree. We were the 23rd ranked rush offense in the NFL last year and are ranked #1 in the NFL this year... The only change on the offensive line is Orlando Franklin.

PFF also ranks the Broncos as the worst run-blocking team in the league.

Your running game is Tebow and spread option bullshit.

milkman · 11-30-2011, 12:00 PM

Stupid thread.

F.

Direckshun · 11-30-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Stupid thread.

F.

How've you liked the draft class so far this year?

Dayze · 11-30-2011, 12:07 PM

Overal C+
A:
1st round: WR Johnny Baldwin
3rd round: OLB Justin Houston

B:
2nd round: OG/C Rodney Hudson

C:
3rd round: DE Allen Bailey

D
4th round: CB Jalil Brown
5th round: QB Ricky Stanzi
5th round: OLB Gabe Miller

F
7th round: FB Shane Bannon
6th round: NT Jerrell Powe

milkman · 11-30-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

How've you liked the draft class so far this year?

You have a couple of guys that are just beginning to show signs, and just beginning to make contributions.

Then you have guys that have just seen the field, and others that haven't yet seen the field.

There is no way in hell a grade can be assigned to any of them, except for an "I".

As I said, stupid thread.

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-30-2011, 12:14 PM

Thus far

A:
Baldwin

B:
Hudson

C:
Houston
Bailey
D:
Jerrel Powe
Jalil Brown

F:
Gabe Miller
Shane Bannon

Incomplete:
Ricky Stanzi

**RealSNR** · 11-30-2011, 12:15 PM

1st round: WR Johnny Baldwin- A. People forget that the trade down was a part of this as well. This pick was the lone bright spot of Pioli's GM tenure in KC.

2nd round: OG/C Rodney Hudson- A. Dude appears to be rocking it, even if it's still at guard and not center. I have no problems with just taking good players especially if we need them at certain positions.

3rd round: OLB Justin Houston- B+. Great value when he was taken. I think we all knew he'd take some time getting used to the pro game

3rd round: DE Allen Bailey- B+. Country Strong had a great game against Pittsburgh. It looks like he can be the future for us on the defensive line if we don't re-sign Dorsey. I almost kinda sorta hope we don't now. Bailey is growing into his role

4th round: CB Jalil Brown- D. I was lukewarm about Brown on draft day, and now I'm thinking this was a terrible pick. We already had enough try-hard-do-it-on-special-teams defensive backs on the team and didn't need another one. He has a low ceiling and will probably never be more than a 3rd corner for us.

5th round: QB Ricky Stanzi- A. I loved this pick now and I still do. Too bad Haley hated it.

5th round: OLB Gabe Miller- C-. I should give this one an incomplete. It was a wtf pick when it happened, but he was doing alright in training camp before he got injured. No clue what will happen to him. From what I hear, we were using him on the inside, which is a place where he could excel for us.

6th round: NT Jerrell Powe- C-. In the same boat as Stanzi. He's apparently got a future with this team, but the coaching staff treats him like chopped liver. If/when Gregg finally dies with his dinosaur friends, we're going to be stuck with an unknown. Not ready to hand the keys over to someone like that, we'll draft a NT and Powe will struggle to get playing time of any sort for the rest of his short career. Unfortunate to see that kind of potential go to waste

7th round: FB Shane Bannon- F-. ****ing stupid pick.

tredadda · 11-30-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

1st round: WR Johnny Baldwin- A. People forget that the trade down was a part of this as well. This pick was the lone bright spot of Pioli's GM tenure in KC.

2nd round: OG/C Rodney Hudson- A. Dude appears to be rocking it, even if it's still at guard and not center. I have no problems with just taking good players especially if we need them at certain positions.

3rd round: OLB Justin Houston- B+. Great value when he was taken. I think we all knew he'd take some time getting used to the pro game

3rd round: DE Allen Bailey- B+. Country Strong had a great game against Pittsburgh. It looks like he can be the future for us on the defensive line if we don't re-sign Dorsey. I almost kinda sorta hope we don't now. Bailey is growing into his role

4th round: CB Jalil Brown- D. I was lukewarm about Brown on draft day, and now I'm thinking this was a terrible pick. We already had enough try-hard-do-it-on-special-teams defensive backs on the team and didn't need another one. He has a low ceiling and will probably never be more than a 3rd corner for us.

5th round: QB Ricky Stanzi- A. I loved this pick now and I still do. Too bad Haley hated it.

5th round: OLB Gabe Miller- C-. I should give this one an incomplete. It was a wtf pick when it happened, but he was doing alright in training camp before he got injured. No clue what will happen to him. From what I hear, we were using him on the inside, which is a place where he could excel for us.

6th round: NT Jerrell Powe- C-. In the same boat as Stanzi. He's apparently got a future with this team, but the coaching staff treats him like chopped liver. If/when Gregg finally dies with his dinosaur friends, we're going to be stuck with an unknown. Not ready to hand the keys over to someone like that, we'll draft a NT and Powe will struggle to get playing time of any sort for the rest of his short career. Unfortunate to see that kind of potential go to waste

7th round: FB Shane Bannon- F-. ****ing stupid pick.

?????????????? Baldwin was as you said "This pick was the lone bright spot of Pioli's GM tenure in KC."

What about Berry? Is he not at the caliber of Baldwin? Or did you just forget about him? That comment was a head scratcher along with giving Stanzi who had yet to suit up before two weeks ago and has yet to play an "A"

**RealSNR** · 11-30-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

?????????????? Baldwin was as you said "This pick was the lone bright spot of Pioli's GM tenure in KC."

What about Berry? Is he not at the caliber of Baldwin? Or did you just forget about him? That comment was a head scratcher along with giving Stanzi who had yet to suit up before two weeks ago and has yet to play an "A"

I mean the entire trade down. Getting Justin Houston AND Jon Baldwin for one 1st round pick was great ****ing GMing.

I've said here all along that Pioli doesn't get credit for the Berry pick. Eric Berry was a no ****ing brainer. He was the consensus best player available for the Chiefs. The fans, media, and draftniks all agreed.

The only more obvious pick would be if the Chiefs had the #1 overall this year and chose Andrew Luck.

suds79 · 11-30-2011, 12:20 PM

1st round: WR Johnny Baldwin - Like this pick. Guy appears to be able to play. We just don't have anybody who can get him the ball.

2nd round: OG/C Rodney Hudson - Seems like a good pick. 2nd round is a little high for my taste on interior linemen but won't complain.

3rd round: OLB Justin Houston - Looks like he's getting better the last few games. Happy with the pick.

3rd round: DE Allen Bailey - 3rd rounder subbing in on the line? Sure no problems.

4th round: CB Jalil Brown - Meh.

5th round: QB Ricky Stanzi - Apparently a bad one.

5th round: OLB Gabe Miller - Who?

6th round: NT Jerrell Powe - Disappointing. Don't think you can count on this guy to be our future NT... And the never ending hunt for that position continues.

7th round: FB Shane Bannon - Don't know. Don't care.

11-30-2011, 11:56 AM	Topic Starter
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2103447	2011 Draft Class This Year Grade each pick best as you can. Then provide the grade for the overall draft. 1st round: WR Johnny Baldwin 2nd round: OG/C Rodney Hudson 3rd round: OLB Justin Houston 3rd round: DE Allen Bailey 4th round: CB Jalil Brown 5th round: QB Ricky Stanzi 5th round: OLB Gabe Miller 6th round: NT Jerrell Powe 7th round: FB Shane Bannon
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11-30-2011, 11:59 AM	#2
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2103447	A Grades WR Johnny Baldwin OG Rodney Hudson B Grades OLB Justin Houston DE Allen Bailey QB Ricky Stanzi C Grades CB Jalil Brown NT Jerrell Powe D Grades Gabe Miller F Grades Shane Bannon While this is obviously all still incomplete, I give the whole draft a B as of now. Slight downgrade from the A I thought this draft was on draft day.
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11-30-2011, 12:00 PM	#7
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Stupid thread. F. __________________
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11-30-2011, 12:07 PM	#9
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1939358	Overal C+ A: 1st round: WR Johnny Baldwin 3rd round: OLB Justin Houston B: 2nd round: OG/C Rodney Hudson C: 3rd round: DE Allen Bailey D 4th round: CB Jalil Brown 5th round: QB Ricky Stanzi 5th round: OLB Gabe Miller F 7th round: FB Shane Bannon 6th round: NT Jerrell Powe
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11-30-2011, 12:14 PM	#11
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2787187	Thus far A: Baldwin B: Hudson C: Houston Bailey D: Jerrel Powe Jalil Brown F: Gabe Miller Shane Bannon Incomplete: Ricky Stanzi __________________
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11-30-2011, 12:20 PM	#15
suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	1st round: WR Johnny Baldwin - Like this pick. Guy appears to be able to play. We just don't have anybody who can get him the ball. 2nd round: OG/C Rodney Hudson - Seems like a good pick. 2nd round is a little high for my taste on interior linemen but won't complain. 3rd round: OLB Justin Houston - Looks like he's getting better the last few games. Happy with the pick. 3rd round: DE Allen Bailey - 3rd rounder subbing in on the line? Sure no problems. 4th round: CB Jalil Brown - Meh. 5th round: QB Ricky Stanzi - Apparently a bad one. 5th round: OLB Gabe Miller - Who? 6th round: NT Jerrell Powe - Disappointing. Don't think you can count on this guy to be our future NT... And the never ending hunt for that position continues. 7th round: FB Shane Bannon - Don't know. Don't care.
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