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Old 01-11-2012, 01:24 PM   Topic Starter
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Was Tim Tebow’s game-winning touchdown illegal?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...163812959.html



A review of the Denver Broncos' pre-snap formation on the game-winning touchdown pass from Tim Tebow to Demaryius Thomas suggests that the play could have been ruled illegal.

Only six Denver Broncos players were lined up on the line of scrimmage before the snap. NFL rules say that a team must have seven or more players on the line for a snap to be legal. As the picture above shows, tight end Dante Rosario was well behind his teammates.

The formation eventually caught the eye of current Fox analyst and former NFL Vice President of Officiating Mike Pereira. He dismissed any suggestion that the play should have been whistled dead. "Watch on any Sunday," he tweeted. "This is a good formation compared to many. They are not technical with this."

In other words, the "seven men on the line" is a rule on the books but one that doesn't require a tape measure and straight edge to determine if every player is precisely on the line of scrimmage. If seven guys are close to line and set, Pereira implies, then the formation is fine.

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This seems to go against all other NFL rule enforcements, which always say that the letter of the law is far more important than the spirit of it. Still, when Pereira speaks, it's wise to listen.

That being said, I went back and looked at tape from every touchdown scored during wild-card weekend and didn't see a single formation in which the scoring team wasn't set with at least seven guys on the line of scrimmage. In this comprehensive highlight package of Bengals-Texans, there's only one play (at the 4:10 mark) that has a similar sloppy formation. This neither confirms nor contradicts Pereira's point, it only shows that illegal sets aren't exactly a pox on the NFL.

Should Tebow's touchdown have counted? Absolutely. It isn't a penalty if you don't get caught.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:25 PM   #2
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The NFL has said that it was a legal play and no flag should have been thrown. Which is what happened. Shall we talk about backward passes?
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:32 PM   #3
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The NFL has said that it was a legal play and no flag should have been thrown. Which is what happened. Shall we talk about backward passes?
of course they did, because they get have the media talk about tebow all week for another week
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:29 PM   #4
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:31 PM   #5
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I'm still annoyed that we had a penalty called against us for not having the interior line covered. I don't think I'd ever seen that penalty called before.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:52 PM   #6
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I'm still annoyed that we had a penalty called against us for not having the interior line covered. I don't think I'd ever seen that penalty called before.
I'm pretty sure he said ''inferior'' line. The Chiefs have that covered.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:53 PM   #7
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I'm pretty sure he said ''inferior'' line. The Chiefs have that covered.
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I'm pretty sure he said ''inferior'' line. The Chiefs have that covered.
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He's on the line.

Their line is setup in an arc. His position is in a straight line to the guy next to him. He's not "back" at all.
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He's on the line.

Their line is setup in an arc. His position is in a straight line to the guy next to him. He's not "back" at all.
looks like hes about 2 yards off the LoS
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looks like hes about 2 yards off the LoS
They would only enforce it if he's 2 yards off the guy next to him.

As it is, he's covering the guy next to him, so he's technically on the line.
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They would only enforce it if he's 2 yards off the guy next to him.

As it is, he's covering the guy next to him, so he's technically on the line.
I don't really care, the Broncos won, this didn't help them. However, during one of our games this year, the announcer clarified the rule. According to him, your helmet has to be at least even with the center's belt to be considered on the LOS.

If that is the common interpretation of the rule, then both the TE and the LT are too far back, IMO. Could have been a penalty, but the NFL sure isn't going to come out and admit that now. The Tebow train keeps rollin' on.
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He's on the line.

Their line is setup in an arc. His position is in a straight line to the guy next to him. He's not "back" at all.
He could literally be standing anywhere on the field and be "in a straight line to the guy next to him."
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He could literally be standing anywhere on the field and be "in a straight line to the guy next to him."
The tackle has to be "covered". He is. It's a perfectly legal formation.
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The tackle has to be "covered". He is. It's a perfectly legal formation.
In College or HS that is a penalty and they would say he is not "covered" up. We had several penalties called on us this year where our TE did the same exact thing trying to cheat on a pull.
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