BossChiefs 2012 Mock Draft

**BossChief** · 03-28-2012, 10:09 PM

I am assuming that Trent Richardson falls to us and that we are able to move back to 17 with Cincy while adding a third this year and a third next year in the process.

1.17) Mark Barron - You all know I am a big fan of this kid and would love to put Berry in coverage more to utilize his speed more efficiently. Barron is a perfect SS for this defense and Lewis would be perfect for sub packages.

2.27) Peter Konz - We are able to move up to NEs spot while giving up the third this year from Cincy to get easily the best center in this class (and probably of the last few classes if you don't include Pouncey) He isnt really a natural fit for the zone scheme, but he can absolutely do the job and do it at a very high level.

3.74) Jason Chapman - this kid is the real deal. He isnt some overhyped buffoon like Poe or require a first round pick, but he would anchor an elite run defense and give the pocket a push for a long time and would be just the type of guy Romeo will be looking for. He would make Belcher and DJ shine for as long as they are here.

4.107) Orson Charles - Pioli loves him some tight ends and at this point is willing to take a shot on a very talented guy. "Charles needs more catches" I know, I know, we already have Moeaki and Boss...well, Moeaki is injury prone and Boss is mostly just a blocker...take those into consideration and then factor in the value the guy gives us and this is a good pick if he falls this far. I have seen lots of mocks with him lasting this long, but I doubt he really does.

(note: my picks in the third and fourth round can probably be flip flopped to make more sense to some here, depending on who you ask)

5.146 ) Shaun Prater - this kid has definite starter potential and is very well coached. We arent thin at the position, but could use another guy to round out the unit. He is a Hawkeye, what more can you ask for in the fifth round?

6.184) Mike Daniels - I know, I know....another Hawkeye...blah blah blah. Haters gonna hate. this guy would fill out a really good rotation for our DL and is a very active and could do everything asked of him in this defense and would be a reallly good pick at this point of the draft.

7.221) DJ Holt - lots of experience in a 3-4 defense and pretty versatile defender. he could stick on this roster and is basically a pick made to give us depth in case Burflict just goes totally awol.

7.241) Vontaze Burflict - This kid has the potential to be an absolute beast and we do need linebacker depth. Classic boom or bust prospec that I am comfortable doing in the 6th round...again, if he lasts this long. Similar to Charles, I see lots of mocks with him falling this far...and further.

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I think this draft is a good mixture of meat and potatoes players that can step in and help us immediately and low risk/high reward guys that could prove to also be impact type defenders.

What do you guys think of it?

Urc Burry · 03-28-2012, 10:21 PM

Love the draft. Burfict still has tremendous upside even though he is a psycho. I personally would go Ryan Broyles over Charles. He has the makings of a great slot receiver, and is now insurance of we don't get something worked out with DBowe

Direckshun · 03-28-2012, 10:30 PM

Where to start........

1. I love the Barron pick, but the Bengals NEVER move in the draft.

2. Konz in the late second? Oooooooookay.

EDIT: I think you meant 1.27, not 2.27.

3. It's Josh Chapman, but I love the pick.

4. Charles could very well fall this far, following his legal troubles. He's a good get at that point, but I do worry about the TE position with Moeaki, Charles, Boss, Maneri, and O'Connell. I think we're set at TE even before we pick Charles.

5. Prater is a zone corner at the next level, not a man corner.

6. Burfict is a total fantasy pick. For god's sakes, man. He's not going to be a Chief. Let it go.

**BossChief** · 03-28-2012, 10:43 PM

haha yeah, one of my buddies name is Jason Chapman and I make that mistake all the time. My friends laugh at me when we are watching the games and I say his name.

My bad also on the number thing with the Konz pick, you got it with the edit though.

Prater is a good corner...also, they at one point said that Flowers and Carr were only zone corners, too.

Ive NEVER been a Burflict fan, but if he is there at an irrelevant slot, Id take him and see what happens. Its a throw away pick to see what the kid acts like around a lot of good leadership type players that we currently have. If he still acts like a complete fool, burn the pick and cut him...but he could also develop into the type of BEAST he was two years ago.

Direckshun · 03-28-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Ive NEVER been a Burflict fan, but if he is there at an irrelevant slot, Id take him and see what happens. Its a throw away pick to see what the kid acts like around a lot of good leadership type players that we currently have. If he still acts like a complete fool, burn the pick and cut him...but he could also develop into the type of BEAST he was two years ago.

We have a locker room full of really nice guys, not a Patriots/Ravens/Saints locker room where every single player is held to account by his teammates, thereby straightening out crazy players.

Who in the locker room do we really have that's an aggressive leader for this team? Brandon Flowers is the only guy I can think of.

Everybody else is too nice. There's no Brian Waters or Tony Gonzalez.

**RealSNR** · 03-28-2012, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

We have a locker room full of really nice guys, not a Patriots/Ravens/Saints locker room where every single player is held to account by his teammates, thereby straightening out crazy players.

Who in the locker room do we really have that's an aggressive leader for this team? Brandon Flowers is the only guy I can think of.

Everybody else is too nice. There's no Brian Waters or Tony Gonzalez.

You said "aggressive", right? Is Thomas Jones still under contract?

kcchiefsus · 03-29-2012, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

We have a locker room full of really nice guys, not a Patriots/Ravens/Saints locker room where every single player is held to account by his teammates, thereby straightening out crazy players.

Who in the locker room do we really have that's an aggressive leader for this team? Brandon Flowers is the only guy I can think of.

Everybody else is too nice. There's no Brian Waters or Tony Gonzalez.

How do you know unless you have spent time in the locker room and around the players?

**HemiEd** · 03-29-2012, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

How do you know unless you have spent time in the locker room and around the players?

That is what I was wondering?

Will Chapman really still be there in the third, let alone the fourth as mentioned?

Dmello12 · 03-28-2012, 10:50 PM

i'd rather have a burfict in the seventh, whos a boom or bust guy than another shane bannon who never had a hope of playing. with burfict at least there's some hope

Bewbies · 03-28-2012, 11:24 PM

Burfict will be in Baltimore.

**BossChief** · 03-28-2012, 11:24 PM

I dont know. I have always believed that you need one nasty mother****er on your team.

A tone setter if you will.

Id take Burflict and set him loose on special teams and goaline to start with and go from there.

As far as leaders go, you dont have to be a rah rah guy to be an effective leader.

Guys like Eric Berry, Flowers and Bowe would set him straight in the locker room or he wouldnt last long and I think his upside is worth that gamble for a measly late 7th rounder.

htismaqe · 03-29-2012, 07:59 AM

I like this draft.

Coogs · 03-29-2012, 08:20 AM

How about this for your trade scenario...

#11 (1250 points) and #44 (470 points) for 1720 total points to the Bengals

#17 (950 points) and #21 (800 points) for 1750 total points to the Chiefs

**BossChief** · 03-29-2012, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

How about this for your trade scenario...

#11 (1250 points) and #44 (470 points) for 1720 total points to the Bengals

#17 (950 points) and #21 (800 points) for 1750 total points to the Chiefs

They aren't coming off both firsts. The plausible scenario I went with also gives us another third next year. Pair that with the comp pick we should get and we should have ammo to move up for a qb if one is within reach.

Dayze · 03-29-2012, 09:13 AM

looks good to me.
I like Konz in the 2nd.

would love Barron or Upshaw in the first too. would be great if we could move down just a few spots because I think both would be there at around 15.

03-28-2012, 10:09 PM	Topic Starter
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1555912	BossChiefs 2012 Mock Draft I am assuming that Trent Richardson falls to us and that we are able to move back to 17 with Cincy while adding a third this year and a third next year in the process. 1.17) Mark Barron - You all know I am a big fan of this kid and would love to put Berry in coverage more to utilize his speed more efficiently. Barron is a perfect SS for this defense and Lewis would be perfect for sub packages. 2.27) Peter Konz - We are able to move up to NEs spot while giving up the third this year from Cincy to get easily the best center in this class (and probably of the last few classes if you don't include Pouncey) He isnt really a natural fit for the zone scheme, but he can absolutely do the job and do it at a very high level. 3.74) Jason Chapman - this kid is the real deal. He isnt some overhyped buffoon like Poe or require a first round pick, but he would anchor an elite run defense and give the pocket a push for a long time and would be just the type of guy Romeo will be looking for. He would make Belcher and DJ shine for as long as they are here. 4.107) Orson Charles - Pioli loves him some tight ends and at this point is willing to take a shot on a very talented guy. "Charles needs more catches" I know, I know, we already have Moeaki and Boss...well, Moeaki is injury prone and Boss is mostly just a blocker...take those into consideration and then factor in the value the guy gives us and this is a good pick if he falls this far. I have seen lots of mocks with him lasting this long, but I doubt he really does. (note: my picks in the third and fourth round can probably be flip flopped to make more sense to some here, depending on who you ask) 5.146 ) Shaun Prater - this kid has definite starter potential and is very well coached. We arent thin at the position, but could use another guy to round out the unit. He is a Hawkeye, what more can you ask for in the fifth round? 6.184) Mike Daniels - I know, I know....another Hawkeye...blah blah blah. Haters gonna hate. this guy would fill out a really good rotation for our DL and is a very active and could do everything asked of him in this defense and would be a reallly good pick at this point of the draft. 7.221) DJ Holt - lots of experience in a 3-4 defense and pretty versatile defender. he could stick on this roster and is basically a pick made to give us depth in case Burflict just goes totally awol. 7.241) Vontaze Burflict - This kid has the potential to be an absolute beast and we do need linebacker depth. Classic boom or bust prospec that I am comfortable doing in the 6th round...again, if he lasts this long. Similar to Charles, I see lots of mocks with him falling this far...and further. ... I think this draft is a good mixture of meat and potatoes players that can step in and help us immediately and low risk/high reward guys that could prove to also be impact type defenders. What do you guys think of it?
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03-28-2012, 10:30 PM	#3
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2113447	Where to start........ 1. I love the Barron pick, but the Bengals NEVER move in the draft. 2. Konz in the late second? Oooooooookay. EDIT: I think you meant 1.27, not 2.27. 3. It's Josh Chapman, but I love the pick. 4. Charles could very well fall this far, following his legal troubles. He's a good get at that point, but I do worry about the TE position with Moeaki, Charles, Boss, Maneri, and O'Connell. I think we're set at TE even before we pick Charles. 5. Prater is a zone corner at the next level, not a man corner. 6. Burfict is a total fantasy pick. For god's sakes, man. He's not going to be a Chief. Let it go.
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03-28-2012, 10:43 PM	#4
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1555912	haha yeah, one of my buddies name is Jason Chapman and I make that mistake all the time. My friends laugh at me when we are watching the games and I say his name. My bad also on the number thing with the Konz pick, you got it with the edit though. Prater is a good corner...also, they at one point said that Flowers and Carr were only zone corners, too. Ive NEVER been a Burflict fan, but if he is there at an irrelevant slot, Id take him and see what happens. Its a throw away pick to see what the kid acts like around a lot of good leadership type players that we currently have. If he still acts like a complete fool, burn the pick and cut him...but he could also develop into the type of BEAST he was two years ago. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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03-28-2012, 10:50 PM	#9
Dmello12 Starter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lawrence Casino cash: $10008180	i'd rather have a burfict in the seventh, whos a boom or bust guy than another shane bannon who never had a hope of playing. with burfict at least there's some hope
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03-28-2012, 11:24 PM	#10
Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $9999900	Burfict will be in Baltimore.
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03-28-2012, 10:21 PM	#2
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $8621048	Love the draft. Burfict still has tremendous upside even though he is a psycho. I personally would go Ryan Broyles over Charles. He has the makings of a great slot receiver, and is now insurance of we don't get something worked out with DBowe
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03-29-2012, 07:59 AM	#12
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	I like this draft.
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03-29-2012, 08:20 AM	#13
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2045651	How about this for your trade scenario... #11 (1250 points) and #44 (470 points) for 1720 total points to the Bengals #17 (950 points) and #21 (800 points) for 1750 total points to the Chiefs
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03-29-2012, 09:13 AM	#15
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1949358	looks good to me. I like Konz in the 2nd. would love Barron or Upshaw in the first too. would be great if we could move down just a few spots because I think both would be there at around 15.
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