2013 QB Prospects

Direckshun · 05-01-2012, 11:00 AM

Below are no fewer than SIX quarterbacks to which I've given either "1st round" or "borderline 1st" grades.

Tyler Wilson, Arkansas

Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech

Matt Barkley, USC

Tyler Bray, Tennessee (relatively unlikely he declares)

Aaron Murray, Georgia (relatively unlikely he declares)

Landry Jones, Oklahoma

Now it should be noted: with the rookie wage scale, it's preferable for QB prospects to just get into the pros whenever they can, rather than biding their time and trying to compete for a Top 5 selection. The Top 5 used to mean you were in a top 10% earner in the NFL. Now it doesn't mean much over somebody like Tannehill's #8 spot, financially.

QB hungry teams in 2013 are bolded.

Patriots -- Brady/Mallett
Bills -- Fitzpatrick
Jets -- Sanchez/Tebow
Dolphins -- Tannehill

Browns -- Weeden
Steelers -- Rothlisberger
Ravens -- Flacco
Bengals -- Dalton

Colts -- Luck
Texans -- Schaub
Jaguars -- Gabbert/Henne
Titans -- Hasselbeck/Locker

Chiefs -- Cassel
Chargers -- Rivers
Broncos -- Manning/Osweiler
Raiders -- Palmer

Cowboys -- Romo
Giants -- Manning
Redskins -- Griffin
Eagles -- Vick

Packers -- Rodgers
Vikings -- Ponder
Lions -- Stafford
Bears -- Cutler

Panthers -- Newton
Falcons -- Ryan
Buccaneers -- Freeman
Saints -- Brees

Cardinals -- Kolb
Rams -- Bradford
49ers -- Smith/Kaepernick
Seahawks -- Flynn/Wilson

6 teams that will need a QB. Maybe eight if you buy the idea that the Cowboys or Eagles could be shopping for a new one.

So assuming at least half of those QBs declare, which is a relatively conservative bet, my prediction is that the Chiefs will be drafting a new quarterback in 2013. Even if it means having to trade up for one.

**The Franchise** · 05-01-2012, 11:14 AM

Cardinals - Need a QB
Bucs - Could need one if Freeman fails
Cowboys - I see Jones giving Romo one more year.
Chiefs - Obvious reasons
Jags - If Gabbert looks as bad as last year....they'll need one.
Texans - Isn't Schaub in the last year of his contract?
Ravens - If Flacco still hasn't signed.
Jets - For obvious reason.
Bills - For obvious reasons.

DJ's left nut · 05-01-2012, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Cardinals - Need a QB
Bucs - Could need one if Freeman fails
Cowboys - I see Jones giving Romo one more year.
Chiefs - Obvious reasons
Jags - If Gabbert looks as bad as last year....they'll need one.
Texans - Isn't Schaub in the last year of his contract?
Ravens - If Flacco still hasn't signed.
Jets - For obvious reason.
Bills - For obvious reasons.

Now see how many of them are likely to pick ahead of us.

Unlikely:
Cowboys, Jets, Texans, Ravens

Possible:
Bills, Bucs

Goddamn well better:
Jags

The problem is the inevitable trade-up scenario. Will Pioli have the stones to actually move up to ensure we stay ahead of those guys? He's out of excuses not to at this point.

kcbubb · 05-01-2012, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Cardinals - Need a QB
Bucs - Could need one if Freeman fails
Cowboys - I see Jones giving Romo one more year.
Chiefs - Obvious reasons
Jags - If Gabbert looks as bad as last year....they'll need one.
Texans - Isn't Schaub in the last year of his contract?
Ravens - If Flacco still hasn't signed.
Jets - For obvious reason.
Bills - For obvious reasons.

There is a good chance that most if not all of these teams don't draft a QB round 1 in 2013.

Bucs - Freeman reverts back to 2010 form.
Cowboys - Romo can play
Jags - Decide to give Gabbert one more year. I don't see them giving up on him after a season and a half if he shows some progress.
Texans - Schaub can play.
Ravens - Flacco is decent.
Jets - Sanchez improves.
Bills - Fitz improves with better defense.

Bump · 05-02-2012, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Cardinals - Need a QB
Bucs - Could need one if Freeman fails
Cowboys - I see Jones giving Romo one more year.
Chiefs - Obvious reasons
Jags - If Gabbert looks as bad as last year....they'll need one.
Texans - Isn't Schaub in the last year of his contract?
Ravens - If Flacco still hasn't signed.
Jets - For obvious reason.
Bills - For obvious reasons.

if Freeman fails, I'd be happy to take him here.

**DaKCMan AP** · 05-03-2012, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump

if Freeman fails, I'd be happy to take him here.

Freeman really has no excuses this year with:
Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, Arrelious Benn, Dezmon Briscoe at WR
Winslow at TE
Blount and Doug Martin at RB
An OL boosted with Carl Nicks.

The Bucs have made some really good moves to improve the team.

DJ's left nut · 05-01-2012, 11:14 AM

Don't sleep on Geno Smith.

There's always someone that comes out of nowhere - this year was Tannehill. At 6'3'', 214 with plus athleticism (not RGIII, but probably right around Tannehill) and good arm strenght (North of Cousins, south of Foles; probably around an 85 on a 100 pt scale; Tannehill is probably a good comparison again), he could easily move up draft boards.

And unlike Tannehill, he has some legitimately excellent production as a Jr. We'll see if he thrives during the transition to the Big 12.

**RealSNR** · 05-01-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Don't sleep on Geno Smith.

There's always someone that comes out of nowhere - this year was Tannehill. At 6'3'', 214 with plus athleticism (not RGIII, but probably right around Tannehill) and good arm strenght (North of Cousins, south of Foles; probably around an 85 on a 100 pt scale; Tannehill is probably a good comparison again), he could easily move up draft boards.

And unlike Tannehill, he has some legitimately excellent production as a Jr. We'll see if he thrives during the transition to the Big 12.

This.

Smith's production was actually very similar to RGIII's penultimate year. With increased competition, another year to improve on his 4300 yards 31 TDs and 7 INTs (those are SCARY good numbers, like, mid-air scary), I see Smith being a lot like RGIII. Talked about as a 1st round pick finally by midseason, PROJECTED as a first round pick at the end of the college season, and by the end of January, assumed to be a top 5 pick in the entire draft.

DJ's left nut · 05-01-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

This.

Smith's production was actually very similar to RGIII's penultimate year. With increased competition, another year to improve on his 4300 yards 31 TDs and 7 INTs (those are SCARY good numbers, like, mid-air scary), I see Smith being a lot like RGIII. Talked about as a 1st round pick finally by midseason, PROJECTED as a first round pick at the end of the college season, and by the end of January, assumed to be a top 5 pick in the entire draft.

That's kinda my thought as well.

I'm hoping I can get my 'driver' of the bandwagon role now, but ultimately I think he'll probably end up out of our range again. We'll probably end up in the mid-teens and there's probably going to be a lot of movement to try to get up to the top 5 to grab him.

I don't see him having the top-end athleticism that RGIII had (no 4.4 forty times to wow the masses), so I'm not certain he'll rocket up like RGIII did, but with Tannehill's measurables and RGIIIs production, he should be one of the more coveted QBs in the draft. And while he'll spend his last 2 seasons in the spread, he performed admirably his first 2 in a conventional offense.

Kid's the real deal, IMO.

BryanBusby · 05-02-2012, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

This.

Smith's production was actually very similar to RGIII's penultimate year. With increased competition, another year to improve on his 4300 yards 31 TDs and 7 INTs (those are SCARY good numbers, like, mid-air scary), I see Smith being a lot like RGIII. Talked about as a 1st round pick finally by midseason, PROJECTED as a first round pick at the end of the college season, and by the end of January, assumed to be a top 5 pick in the entire draft.

Lets see what Geno Smith does against some not completely terrible "Big East" Defenses before we get worked up.

**DaKCMan AP** · 05-02-2012, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Lets see what Geno Smith does against some not completely terrible "Big East" Defenses before we get worked up.

The Big XII is not known for defense.

BryanBusby · 05-02-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

The Big XII is not known for defense.

Overall? No lol Compared to the SEC? Hell no.

Oklahoma and Texas could provide some form of a challenge. The Big East had no form of defense going on there.

**The Franchise** · 05-01-2012, 11:16 AM

Maybe?

2011 Season 242 for 362, 3063 yards, 33 TDs, 11 INTs

58kcfan89 · 05-01-2012, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Maybe?

2011 Season 242 for 362, 3063 yards, 33 TDs, 11 INTs

I only saw 2 games he played in, one of them being the Alamo Bowl where he went blow-for-blow with RG3. Unfortunately, Price'll be a junior this year, so he'd have to have a great season to declare (theoretically).

Dante84 · 05-01-2012, 12:16 PM

Still have hope for Stanzi.

I want to see Cassel go down week 1.

If for no other reason than WE HAVE NO CLUE WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.

If Stanzi doesn't have a couple games to flash, I will be pissed. If they won't give him a chance, who's to say they even draft a QB?

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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2093447	2013 QB Prospects Below are no fewer than SIX quarterbacks to which I've given either "1st round" or "borderline 1st" grades. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech Matt Barkley, USC Tyler Bray, Tennessee (relatively unlikely he declares) Aaron Murray, Georgia (relatively unlikely he declares) Landry Jones, Oklahoma Now it should be noted: with the rookie wage scale, it's preferable for QB prospects to just get into the pros whenever they can, rather than biding their time and trying to compete for a Top 5 selection. The Top 5 used to mean you were in a top 10% earner in the NFL. Now it doesn't mean much over somebody like Tannehill's #8 spot, financially. QB hungry teams in 2013 are bolded. Patriots -- Brady/Mallett Bills -- Fitzpatrick Jets -- Sanchez/Tebow Dolphins -- Tannehill Browns -- Weeden Steelers -- Rothlisberger Ravens -- Flacco Bengals -- Dalton Colts -- Luck Texans -- Schaub Jaguars -- Gabbert/Henne Titans -- Hasselbeck/Locker Chiefs -- Cassel Chargers -- Rivers Broncos -- Manning/Osweiler Raiders -- Palmer Cowboys -- Romo Giants -- Manning Redskins -- Griffin Eagles -- Vick Packers -- Rodgers Vikings -- Ponder Lions -- Stafford Bears -- Cutler Panthers -- Newton Falcons -- Ryan Buccaneers -- Freeman Saints -- Brees Cardinals -- Kolb Rams -- Bradford 49ers -- Smith/Kaepernick Seahawks -- Flynn/Wilson 6 teams that will need a QB. Maybe eight if you buy the idea that the Cowboys or Eagles could be shopping for a new one. So assuming at least half of those QBs declare, which is a relatively conservative bet, my prediction is that the Chiefs will be drafting a new quarterback in 2013. Even if it means having to trade up for one.
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-680901	Don't sleep on Geno Smith. There's always someone that comes out of nowhere - this year was Tannehill. At 6'3'', 214 with plus athleticism (not RGIII, but probably right around Tannehill) and good arm strenght (North of Cousins, south of Foles; probably around an 85 on a 100 pt scale; Tannehill is probably a good comparison again), he could easily move up draft boards. And unlike Tannehill, he has some legitimately excellent production as a Jr. We'll see if he thrives during the transition to the Big 12. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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