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Old 08-23-2012, 08:43 PM   Topic Starter
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Rock Center with Brian Williams Doing a Hatchet Job on Mormonism...

How ****ing transparent can the mainstream media be? They constantly run interference for Hussein, and savage anyone who dares speak against their anointed one...

I wonder when NBC or CBS or ABC will do an expose on Reverend Wright's anti-American diatribes in prime time?
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:46 PM   #2
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It's pretty clear the GOP and Romney himself just have absolutely no idea how to address Mormonism. How to explain it, how to describe it.

The only angle they can really take on it is that the Librul Media is attacking it.

If a productive conversation about Mormonism comes out of this, or really any conversation about Mormonism comes out of this at all, I'll be deathly surprised.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:55 PM   #3
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It's pretty clear the GOP and Romney himself just have absolutely no idea how to address Mormonism. How to explain it, how to describe it.

The only angle they can really take on it is that the Librul Media is attacking it.

If a productive conversation about Mormonism comes out of this, or really any conversation about Mormonism comes out of this at all, I'll be deathly surprised.
You make Mormonism sound like a disease.

I'm not really sure why they should have to explain it unless it's being attacked. So then the question is why is it being attacked?
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:40 PM   #4
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You make Mormonism sound like a disease.

I'm not really sure why they should have to explain it unless it's being attacked. So then the question is why is it being attacked?
Oh, I get it. When Obama doesn't want to publicly pray, he's a fake Christian. But when the Romney campaign doesn't want to even talk about his Mormonism, it's in the purest name of religious freedom.

We consistently ask our Presidents and Presidential candidates to talk about their faiths, because if you follow a religion, chances are it drives your worldview and colors what you consider your top existential priorities.

The same Republican Party that has demanded constant displays of Christian faith from the President now doesn't even want to talk about their own candidates' faith.

Mormonism, in particular, has plenty of religious beliefs that, if held devoutly by somebody like Romney, it could have a tangible effect on policy.

Romney just doesn't want to talk about it. Ever. And rightly so, because a lot of people are genuinely spooked when they are confronted by it.

That's one of the reasons he failed to gain traction in 2008, running against McCain but mainly against Huckabee. He faced a ton of questions about his faith on the campaign trail, so many that he held a press conference to speak specifically about the topic.

Or at least that's how it was billed. He spoke for half an hour about religious tolerance, totally skirting the issue and not addressing or describing his beliefs at all. Religious tolerance is a fantastic message, and bless him for addressing it. But it's further evidence that he doesn't want to talk about it, he doesn't want you to even think about it, and he'd rather sweep it under the rug and never have to address it.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:53 PM   #5
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That's one of the reasons he failed to gain traction in 2008, running against McCain but mainly against Huckabee. He faced a ton of questions about his faith on the campaign trail, so many that he held a press conference to speak specifically about the topic.
Huckabee and Romney split the conservative base; that's how scarface the moderate got the nomination.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:04 PM   #6
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Huckabee and Romney split the conservative base; that's how scarface the moderate got the nomination.
Uh, what?

Huckabee outlasted Romney in the primaries and slaughtered him in the states with the higher evangelical turnout.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:55 PM   #7
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Oh, I get it. When Obama doesn't want to publicly pray, he's a fake Christian. But when the Romney campaign doesn't want to even talk about his Mormonism, it's in the purest name of religious freedom.

We consistently ask our Presidents and Presidential candidates to talk about their faiths, because if you follow a religion, chances are it drives your worldview and colors what you consider your top existential priorities.

The same Republican Party that has demanded constant displays of Christian faith from the President now doesn't even want to talk about their own candidates' faith.

Mormonism, in particular, has plenty of religious beliefs that, if held devoutly by somebody like Romney, it could have a tangible effect on policy.

Romney just doesn't want to talk about it. Ever. And rightly so, because a lot of people are genuinely spooked when they are confronted by it.

That's one of the reasons he failed to gain traction in 2008, running against McCain but mainly against Huckabee. He faced a ton of questions about his faith on the campaign trail, so many that he held a press conference to speak specifically about the topic.

Or at least that's how it was billed. He spoke for half an hour about religious tolerance, totally skirting the issue and not addressing or describing his beliefs at all. Religious tolerance is a fantastic message, and bless him for addressing it. But it's further evidence that he doesn't want to talk about it, he doesn't want you to even think about it, and he'd rather sweep it under the rug and never have to address it.
Do you get spooked by black liberation theology? Do you hope that this election brings that out and that the media covers it so we can understand it?
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:03 PM   #8
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Do you get spooked by black liberation theology?
I'm talking about how a lot of people feel.

A ton of people were spooked by the Reverend Wright bullshit.

And guess what the no-yet-President did? He had a 45 minute speech on that issue alone. Obama has also written extensively about his faith, and even uses it now to justify certain policies he's made.

Romney votes present.

A candidate's faith is a relevant point of discussion. When Presidents are telling them God told them to invade this country, or the Bible teaches us about universal healthcare, etc... It's incredibly relevant.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:17 PM   #9
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You make Mormonism sound like a disease.

I'm not really sure why they should have to explain it unless it's being attacked. So then the question is why is it being attacked?
Maybe people might be curious about the religious beliefs of the potential next president?
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:52 PM   #10
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It's pretty clear the GOP and Romney himself just have absolutely no idea how to address Mormonism. How to explain it, how to describe it.

The only angle they can really take on it is that the Librul Media is attacking it.

If a productive conversation about Mormonism comes out of this, or really any conversation about Mormonism comes out of this at all, I'll be deathly surprised.
What is there to say about it? It isn't scientology.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:41 PM   #11
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What is there to say about it? It isn't scientology.
Or Freemasonry.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:29 PM   #12
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What is there to say about it? It isn't scientology.
So they baptize the dead, wear magic underwear to protect them from evil and say God is dude living on the planet Kolob. Nothing to see here.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:49 AM   #13
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So they baptize the dead, wear magic underwear to protect them from evil and say God is dude living on the planet Kolob. Nothing to see here.
So what? Catholics and born agains believe a bunch of crazy shit too.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:50 AM   #14
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So what? Catholics and born agains believe a bunch of crazy shit too.
He thinks if he keeps mentioning the baptism thing 500 times in a bunch of threads it will mean something.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:53 AM   #15
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So what? Catholics and born agains believe a bunch of crazy shit too.
What's your point?
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