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Old 09-04-2012, 08:08 AM   Topic Starter
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Source: Gap between NFL, officials is as much as $70 million
Source: Gap between NFL, officials is as much as $70 million
Posted by Mike Florio on September 4, 2012, 9:10 AM EDT

The NFL has been driving a hard bargain with the locked-out officials. Now that the replacements are looking like they need to be replaced, the locked-out officials are driving a hard bargain right back at the league.

The best evidence that the regular officials believe they have the upper hand comes from a Monday report that some are determined to sit out for months, if that’s what it takes to get the deal they want.

“This is a battle of right and wrong,” one unnamed official told Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com. “We are willing to wait for as long as it takes.”

Sorry, unnamed official, but that overstates the situation — and invites a backlash. While plenty of fans believe that the NFL is being obstinate because it can, plenty of other fans believe that the locked-out officials incorrectly assume that their income should grow at the same rate the league’s revenues are growing.

NFLRA spokesman Michael Arnold explained to PFT via email on Monday that the officials’ current proposal would have a total cost $30 million in 2012 in salary and benefits.

It’s still not clear what the precise gap is. A league source tells PFT that, when the parties met on Saturday, the NFLRA reverted to their pre-lockout position, which creates a gap of up to $70 million over the seven-year life of the deal.

If that calculation of the gap is based on the NFLRA’s representation of the officials’ position, this means the NFL is offering a total package worth as little as $20 million — and that the gap extends to as much as $10 million per year.

It could be that the parties have an incentive to overstate the divide in order to avoid external pressure on either side to close it. Regardless, it looks like the replacement officials will get their first close up on Wednesday night, whether they’re ready for it or not.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:45 AM   #2
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I thought it was $45m?
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:48 AM   #3
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:08 AM   #4
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:47 AM   #5
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A league source tells PFT that, when the parties met on Saturday, the NFLRA reverted to their pre-lockout position, which creates a gap of up to $70 million over the seven-year life of the deal.
the fact the the NFLRA responded to the NFL's offer increase by increasing their demands speaks volumes. They are hoping to embarrass the league into giving them whatever they want.

There is a tipping point though ... after awhile the replacement officials will start getting noticeably better and the leverage for the NFLRA will start dropping big time.

If the 2 sides don't agree by the halfway point of the season i don't think there is much incentive for the NFL to agree at all. Just move on and deal with the new group of officials.
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Where the NFL ****ed up with these replacement officials, is they CLEARLY did not train these guys at all. They don't know all the rules. This is obvious.

Seems they just tossed them into the fire.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:53 AM   #7
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Where the NFL ****ed up with these replacement officials, is they CLEARLY did not train these guys at all. They don't know all the rules. This is obvious.

Seems they just tossed them into the fire.
How hard is it to study the rules? I mean, seriously.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:27 AM   #8
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How hard is it to study the rules? I mean, seriously.
Most of these scab refs are not from BCS conferences. The game is much faster. When NFL players are flying around at game speed in real time, you better know what the **** you're doing, and the calls you make better be second nature because the integrity of the NFL depends on it.

There's more to it than just "getting 2 feet in bounds instead of 1".
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Where the NFL ****ed up with these replacement officials, is they CLEARLY did not train these guys at all. They don't know all the rules. This is obvious.

Seems they just tossed them into the fire.
I thought I read here much earlier that the people in charge of training the refs got fired and had to turn in there computers because they refused to train the replacements.
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:39 PM   #10
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Where the NFL ****ed up with these replacement officials, is they CLEARLY did not train these guys at all. They don't know all the rules. This is obvious.

Seems they just tossed them into the fire.
What I have heard is these guys are barely even capable. I heard they tried to get the SEC and other college football refs but they declined. They didn't want to cross the picket lines because some of them want the jobs someday.

They should get paid and get their pensions imo. They can't be replaced imo. I think that someone could get hurt bad this week because of the refs. If they do, Goddell is going to look like a fool after constantly talking safety.

I'm tired of Goddell. It's time for a change. I know Condaleeza Rice wants to be the NFL Commish one day. Maybe it's time?
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I'm tired of Goddell. It's time for a change. I know Condaleeza Rice wants to be the NFL Commish one day. Maybe it's time?
He does exactly what the owners want him to do. Why would they ever get rid of him?
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This is the perfect opportunity to implement a much more video based rule enforcement system. Significantly reduce referee involvement, and increase video based decision making.
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This is the perfect opportunity to implement a much more video based rule enforcement system. Significantly reduce referee involvement, and increase video based decision making.
Boom, there it is.
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