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Old 09-07-2012, 10:07 AM   Topic Starter
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Exposed Drywall Paper

Can I just put primer on the paper before I mud over it, or do I have to go to Sherwin Williams and get this Gardz stuff? I already have the primer, so one less trip would be great.
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:15 AM   #2
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Yes. Just make sure you use a quality Primer such as Killz
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:29 AM   #3
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Yes. Just make sure you use a quality Primer such as Killz
That's what I have.
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:24 AM   #4
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Why would you primer it before you mud?
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:29 AM   #5
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Why would you primer it before you mud?
Because the paper is exposed . . .
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:31 AM   #6
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Because the paper is exposed . . .
Do you mean the paper is ripped? Drywall paper is made to take mud. You may need to watch some DIY videos before doing this.
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:35 AM   #7
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Because the paper is exposed . . .
you mean the paper is torn?



If so, you need to carefully and cleanly cut out that area of paper with a utility knife so that only the damage layers of the brown paper are removed. You want to end up with a clean, smooth brown surface that looks like toilet paper roll. Then you DO need to seal it with an oil base primer such as Kilz.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:46 AM   #8
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you mean the paper is torn?



If so, you need to carefully and cleanly cut out that area of paper with a utility knife so that only the damage layers of the brown paper are removed. You want to end up with a clean, smooth brown surface that looks like toilet paper roll. Then you DO need to seal it with an oil base primer such as Kilz.
Yes, this is my problem. I cut out the paper that is torn, but I can't get it much smoother without taking off more paper. I'm using 220 grit. Do I need finer grit? Wet sand it?
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:29 PM   #9
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Yes, this is my problem. I cut out the paper that is torn, but I can't get it much smoother without taking off more paper. I'm using 220 grit. Do I need finer grit? Wet sand it?
you shouldn't be sanding it, just peeling off the layers.
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Yoo prime before you PAINT, not finish.

Kilz is not necessary unless there is something on the drywall that could bleed through (oil, marking pen, etc.).

A standard drywall primer is fine, available at any home or paint store.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:09 AM   #11
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Home Depot also offers paint with primer
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:44 PM   #12
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It's garbage. Primer and paint are two different products that do two different things, and that stuff doesn't do either of them well.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:33 PM   #13
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It's garbage. Primer and paint are two different products that do two different things, and that stuff doesn't do either of them well.
That's good to know. I recently had a paint contractor recommend it but we went with Killz and Dunn-Edwards paint (which was excruciatingly expensive).
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:42 PM   #14
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That's good to know. I recently had a paint contractor recommend it but we went with Killz and Dunn-Edwards paint (which was excruciatingly expensive).
Yikes, I would be wary of any contractor who uses that stuff. I suppose it's not a bad alternative for do-it-yourselfers or for rental property where the results aren't as important, but as a professional I would never use it again.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:04 PM   #15
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Yikes, I would be wary of any contractor who uses that stuff. I suppose it's not a bad alternative for do-it-yourselfers or for rental property where the results aren't as important, but as a professional I would never use it again.
Yeah, we didn't use him.

But JFC, is paint as expensive there as it is here? It was $42 dollars a gallon plus tax. I used to get the same brand for $26 dollars a gallon just a few years ago.

They blamed it on freight costs but really?
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