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Old 09-07-2012, 03:23 PM   Topic Starter
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GOP Suing to Keep Third Parties Off Ballot in November

Posted on September 6, 2012 by beyondthecurtain

The New American
Around the country, the Republican Party is mounting legal challenges to keep third-party candidates off the ballot in November.
Writer Karl Dickey reports in the Examiner that “in recent weeks, with the full support and legal assistance of the Republican Party, [Gary] Johnson’s ballot status has been challenged in Michigan, Pennsylvania, the District of Columbia, Iowa and now Ohio.” Gary Johnson (pictured) is the former governor of New Mexico and the Libertarian Party’s candidate for president of the United States. As of this writing, Johnson is on the ballot in 43 states.
On September 1 the Ohio voters challenging Johnson’s appearance on the November ballot officially withdrew their opposition. In the one-page notice filed with the office of Ohio’s Secretary of State, Kelly Mills and Cynthia Rees did not explain their decision to drop their protest.
It could be related to the decision of the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals decision handed down on August 31 dismissing the Ohio state legislature’s appeal of a U.S. district court ruling putting the Libertarian Party on the ballot for 2012.
On August 31, a senior advisor to Johnson released a statement regarding the various efforts to block Libertarian ballot access:
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:41 PM   #2
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What an act of desperation. Makes me want to vote for Johnson even more.

Anyhow, I thought the LP ticket is on the ballot in every state, not just 43.

Reform Party has offered their already-on-the ballot to Ron Paul.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:50 PM   #3
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Why would they do this?
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:54 PM   #4
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Why would they do this?
Because it's a close election and they can't afford to be Naderized by any 3P, especially one polling at 7% in some western states.
I mean it's not like they have a Ronald Reagan running to overcome one. Reagan had Anderson to contend with and still won in a landslide.
I hear Obama has the Electoral College edge currently.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:37 PM   #5
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Because it's a close election and they can't afford to be Naderized by any 3P, especially one polling at 7% in some western states.
I mean it's not like they have a Ronald Reagan running to overcome one. Reagan had Anderson to contend with and still won in a landslide.
I hear Obama has the Electoral College edge currently.
I don't think Nader ever cost ANYONE an election...now Perot on the other hand...
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Old 09-07-2012, 07:06 PM   #6
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I don't think Nader ever cost ANYONE an election...now Perot on the other hand...
Whether that's true or not, since some think it cost Gore, the Republican Establishment is afraid of this as well as the patriot movement. They aren't taking any chances.

The RNC screwed the pooch using shenanigans to keep Paul delegates out at the state conventions with strong arm tactics or stripping him of delegates when they didn't even need to do that because Romney was still going to win. Those moves could hurt them with more Paul supporters casting a vote for Johnson. They can't win without getting more of those votes and they know it pissed a lot of the Paul folks off. So this strategy makes sense. It's just more of the same.
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:39 PM   #7
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Whether that's true or not, since some think it cost Gore, the Republican Establishment is afraid of this as well as the patriot movement. They aren't taking any chances.
The butterfly ballot cost Gore the election. Of the actual votes cast GWB won in every version of the recount Gore wanted (and, amusingly, lost in every version of the recount the Bush side wanted). But there is no way that Pat Buchannen won 4x the votes he got anywhere else in the state in the one place that he should have received the least support. It's pretty clear people were confused, and it's pretty clear had there been no confusion Gore would have been in a position to be on top by a decent margin when all the legal challenges began.

Then again, the networks calling the state for Florida probably depressed Bush's vote totals in the pan-handle.

But it is funny that the third-party candidate you'd think would have cost Bush the election actually ended up costing Gore the election (thanks to the idiots in PBC).

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The RNC screwed the pooch using shenanigans to keep Paul delegates out at the state conventions with strong arm tactics or stripping him of delegates when they didn't even need to do that because Romney was still going to win. Those moves could hurt them with more Paul supporters casting a vote for Johnson. They can't win without getting more of those votes and they know it pissed a lot of the Paul folks off. So this strategy makes sense. It's just more of the same.
Ugh on the Ron Paul delegate BS. Let it go already. If supporters want to give him money then go right ahead, but stop believing he was ever in a position to do anything except cash checks.
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Whether that's true or not, since some think it cost Gore.

A lot of folks think the Elian Gonzales thing cost Gore Florida and hence the election.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:58 PM   #9
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Why would they do this?
To keep the Paulians from voting for Ron Paul, basically.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:15 PM   #10
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To keep the Paulians from voting for Ron Paul, basically.
This makes no sense. Johnson isn't really a Paul and write-ins don't get counted.
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Why would they do this?
In the best interest of the country. The Paul nuts must not be allowed to get obama re-elected.
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In the best interest of the country. The Paul nuts must not be allowed to get obama re-elected.
But there are only 34 of us total who just hound the internet all day spamming online straw polls and donating all of our yearly earnings to Paul's campaign! We're so insignificant and few! You don't need us!
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But there are only 34 of us total who just hound the internet all day spamming online straw polls and donating all of our yearly earnings to Paul's campaign! We're so insignificant and few! You don't need us!
I was just positing a theory, I wouldn't claim to have the facts of this story or to even know if the OP is accurate.
It is clear that there is a certain lunatic fringe element of Paulites though.
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I was just positing a theory, I wouldn't claim to have the facts of this story or to even know if the OP is accurate.
It is clear that there is a certain lunatic fringe element of Paulites though.
What does that have to do with Ron Pauls voting for Gary Johnson instead of Romney and giving Obama the election?

That won't ****ing happen. And even if it does, Romney's not going to beat Obama.
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In the best interest of the country. The Paul nuts must not be allowed to get obama re-elected.
Irrelevant, 'cause the ones who won't vote for Mitt won't vote for Mitt no matter if there's a 3P available.
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