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Old 09-13-2012, 06:40 AM   Topic Starter
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Do you support changing Columbus Day to Explorers Day?

I guess Columbus history has grown icky over the years and Explorers would be more broad and honor guys like Neil Armstrong.



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OAKVILLE, MO -- Three locals are trying to change Columbus Day to Exploration Day.

The movement started in the living room of Karl Frank Jr. after TV reports of Neil Armstrong’s death. Frank—a Patch blogger and former Mehlville school board member—wanted to honor the astronaut's accomplishments.

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“I have never been a fan of having a Federal holiday named after Columbus's accidental conquest. Like my wife said when I mentioned this to her, ‘Why? Because saying he discovered America is like walking into a grocery store and saying you discovered milk?’” he said in a blog post about the effort.

Frank recruited friends Tom Diehl and Dr. Rod Wright. Diehl is a former Mehlville school board president and Wright is a political scientist and public relations specialist.

The group started a petition for the White House and needs 25,000 signatures by Sept. 27 for officials to review the petition. As of Monday night, their petition has 1,176 signatures.

The movement has officially gone national.

Wired’s Jeffrey Marlow wrote a story Sept. 7 calling for support because Columbus Day's popularity has been decreasing over the years.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch columnist Bill McClellan is also gathering votes for the group saying, “Christopher Columbus is to heroes what Pluto is to planets.”

Frank said Exploration Day would allow people to celebrate Columbus, but also any other explorer that’s made innovations in the physical or technological world.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:47 AM   #2
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you know, at first I didn't like it. But now, I think I'm ok with it. It actually does make some sense.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:21 AM   #3
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It's not a bad idea, I guess.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:24 AM   #4
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:34 AM   #5
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we could just rename Columbus day to "give the natives syphillis when you accidentally stumble upon their land when you are waaaaaay off course from where you are supposed to be" Day. Then have a total different day for real explorers
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:36 AM   #6
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When I was a kid, I never questioned the point of Columbus day. Then you find out there were others who were here before Columbus, and it's like...why don't we talk about Leif Erickson?

meh. I don't really care I guess.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:37 AM   #7
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:42 AM   #8
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Yeah, that's about the way I feel about it. I don't give rats ass and no matter which way it turns out, I won't lose any sleep over it.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:11 AM   #9
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Yeah, that's about the way I feel about it. I don't give rats ass and no matter which way it turns out, I won't lose any sleep over it.
But the schools do close so you have to find someone to watch the kids so you can go to work. Its a sham. Its all a sham.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:44 AM   #10
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But the schools do close so you have to find someone to watch the kids so you can go to work. Its a sham. Its all a sham.
Our kids don't get Columbus Day off. The school chose to takes a day off the first Monday of hunting season instead..


BTW, for people that are interested in what the Americas were really like before the explorers got here and the effects that contact with explorers had on the native population, I highly recommend 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus by Charles Mann. Really eye-opening.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:51 AM   #11
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:32 AM   #12
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:57 AM   #13
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If we're really worried about Columbus' deservedness, then why are they suggesting Armstrong? It's not like he discovered the moon. He got shot up there intentionally and just happened to be the one. It was either him or a monkey and it was a lot closer than anybody will acknowledge.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:05 AM   #14
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If we're really worried about Columbus' deservedness, then why are they suggesting Armstrong? It's not like he discovered the moon. He got shot up there intentionally and just happened to be the one. It was either him or a monkey and it was a lot closer than anybody will acknowledge.

I can only surmise there is only one person close to being a monkey, and that would be the buffoon who typed the above post.

Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins risked their lives, riding risky technology to a destination no human had ever set foot on.

It was the realization of a dream that inspired mankind since stories have been written, and legends told. Many have stared up into the sky at night, and reached out a hand to touch that ghostly sphere that seemed as though it would always be beyond man's grasp.

Go back to building porches, drinking beer, and ripping rank farts while feeling immensely proud of yourself, and thinking of Neil Armstrong as a glorified "monkey".

I'm sure you'll ban me now, in your monkey-like pique.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:34 AM   #15
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I can only surmise there is only one person close to being a monkey, and that would be the buffoon who typed the above post.

Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins risked their lives, riding risky technology to a destination no human had ever set foot on.

It was the realization of a dream that inspired mankind since stories have been written, and legends told. Many have stared up into the sky at night, and reached out a hand to touch that ghostly sphere that seemed as though it would always be beyond man's grasp.

Go back to building porches, drinking beer, and ripping rank farts while feeling immensely proud of yourself, and thinking of Neil Armstrong as a glorified "monkey".

I'm sure you'll ban me now, in your monkey-like pique.
K then, why not have a Lewis and Clark Day?
How bout a Neanderthal day? They actually crossed the bering straight first no?
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