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Old 10-01-2012, 12:37 PM   Topic Starter
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Will Romney lose the election because hes too rich?

Just MHO but i think the guy loses. Ive heard this same sort of response with alot of working class people when discussing Romney. (Both Repub and Dem)

Basically they cant relate because they think hes elitist.


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The Obama ad is called "Not One of Us," and that was another theme of my conversations with voters about Romney. (It's an insidious title -- can you imagine Romney making an anti-Obama ad called "not one of us" without getting shouted down for implicit racism?) Those opposed to Obama cited various reasons, from disappointment to anger to being convinced he's a Muslim. But the impressions of Romney were remarkably consistent: He's for the rich.

"I think Obama's more for the regular working class people, and Romney's for the big business and the well-to-do," said Eric Burkhead, the road and cemetery superintendent for Kirkwood Township, working on a truck in the gravel driveway of the local garage. The 66-year-old didn't like what he saw happening with coal and wasn't wild about Obamacare, but he planned to vote for Obama.

I heard it over and over again from Ohioans -- the idea that Romney stands for the wealthy and not for them. Obama's depiction of his rival as an out-of-touch rich guy, which has gotten no little assistance from Romney himself, has made a deep and effective impression with these self-consciously working-class voters.





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Old 10-01-2012, 12:46 PM   #2
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Romney is in it for the money and fame. He's clearly not interested in the common man, in fact, I bet he hates them and thinks we are all sub human.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:14 PM   #3
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People can't relate to Romney?
Interesting, I don't know anyone that can relate to obama.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:47 PM   #4
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People can't relate to Romney?
Interesting, I don't know anyone that can relate to obama.
They dont, but i think thats why alot of people are torn this election.

Neither of these candidates excite moderates, Independants or even alot of conservatives.
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:04 PM   #5
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They dont, but i think thats why alot of people are torn this election.

Neither of these candidates excite moderates, Independants or even alot of conservatives.
Sad but true.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:50 PM   #6
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I really don’t begrudge anyone for getting rich ( I would like to give it a try) but, I supposed I would be more suspicious of those that get rich during and after serving in public office than ones who did so beforehand.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:50 PM   #7
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Not necessarily.

Being rich is not a huge knock.

Appearing as being for the rich at the expense of everybody else, however, is.

Which is the hole Romney's allowed Obama to pigeon him into, and which he's just done an awful job demonstrating otherwise.
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:00 PM   #8
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Not necessarily.

Being rich is not a huge knock.

Appearing as being for the rich at the expense of everybody else, however, is.

Which is the hole Romney's allowed Obama to pigeon him into, and which he's just done an awful job demonstrating otherwise.
That is a fair take on things
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:05 PM   #9
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Not necessarily.

Being rich is not a huge knock.

Appearing as being for the rich at the expense of everybody else, however, is.

Which is the hole Romney's allowed Obama to pigeon him into, and which he's just done an awful job demonstrating otherwise.
Huh? Care to specify what this means? Which modes of profit meet with your high standards, and which do not?

Is it your position that if you were presented with the opportunity to earn the same amount of profits in the same manner by which Romney realized his financial successes you would decline to do so?

The jealousy and class envy that oozes out of some of you is disgusting.
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Of course not. If being rich is a political drawback, it isn't much of one, at all.

Romney is going to lose, aside from facing a tough opponent who would be difficult for anyone to beat, because Romney is a terrible politician who is utterly unlikable. Secondary to that, is the 47% thing discussed behind everyone's back, which has really stuck with a lot of people.
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Of course not. If being rich is a political drawback, it isn't much of one, at all.

Romney is going to lose, aside from facing a tough opponent who would be difficult for anyone to beat, because Romney is a terrible politician who is utterly unlikable. Secondary to that, is the 47% thing discussed behind everyone's back, which has really stuck with a lot of people.
Please tell me you were trolling there......
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:14 PM   #12
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Of course not. If being rich is a political drawback, it isn't much of one, at all.

Romney is going to lose, aside from facing a tough opponent who would be difficult for anyone to beat, because Romney is a terrible politician who is utterly unlikable. Secondary to that, is the 47% thing discussed behind everyone's back, which has really stuck with a lot of people.
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Please tell me you were trolling there......
Well, its hard to be an incumbent in any election.
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Please tell me you were trolling there......
You are talking about someone who, with this economy, should be getting crushed by Blimpie the Clown.

You cant blame it all on Romney, and Obama's ability as a politician is undeniable.
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Of course not. If being rich is a political drawback, it isn't much of one, at all.

Romney is going to lose, aside from facing a tough opponent who would be difficult for anyone to beat, because Romney is a terrible politician who is utterly unlikable. Secondary to that, is the 47% thing discussed behind everyone's back, which has really stuck with a lot of people.
I agree with everything except for that. If we had a candidate that wasn't a political boob, I think Obama would be trailing big right now. Of course, that is speculative at best, but that is my belief.
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Not necessarily.

Being rich is not a huge knock.

Appearing as being for the rich at the expense of everybody else, however, is.

Which is the hole Romney's allowed Obama to pigeon him into, and which he's just done an awful job demonstrating otherwise.
And here's the rub. People decry people who wear their faith on their sleeve. But Romney is circumspect about his his religion, so he's doing an 'awful job' of painting himself as a compassionate person, because he's very private about that aspect of his life.

In return, you have supposition like Bump's thoroughly unfounded opinion in the first reply.

How many people here are, or even KNOW, someone who has given >$2M to charity in their life, let alone in a year.
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