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Old 10-03-2012, 02:50 PM   Topic Starter
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An Inside Look At The Ridiculous Hype Machine That ESPN Turned Itself Into

I gave up on watching ESPN quite a while ago. I eventually abandoned cable and satellite TV all together, so it's not like I can wander by the channel and get hooked by a particular program. I do occasionally see a few minutes of ESPN at work in the break room. It typically confirms my opinion that ESPN is giant flaming pile of garbage.

Here's an interview with a guy that did radio work for them, Doug Gottlieb. It is referred to as an "exit interview" as he talks about his time with ESPN:

http://www.danpatrick.com/2012/10/03...ebow-coverage/

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I was told specifically, 'You can't talk enough Tebow.' I would jokingly throw it into a segment. 'I gotta find 15 seconds here to talk about Tebow, all right let's move on and talk about Major League Baseball.'

Is it ridiculous how much you have to talk about Tebow? Yeah! But for whatever reason people can't get enough of that story, and they kind of stoke the fire—that's kind of what ESPN does.

They've lost that credibility, a large portion of the credibility of covering news. I think that it's now: ‘What's trending?' Focus groups. You're trying to create things there. Bernie Fine story at Syracuse. Where's that? The New Orleans story with the Saints with Mickey Loomis? Where's that? Where are those stories? Those are big stories that you guys created. You were late on the Joe Paterno story. I think there's just a different mindset from what they're doing and how they're covering it. And they always fall back on ‘Well, Bob Ley covers the serious news stories.' SportsCenter should be covering sports, they should be covering the news. I think they created it with Tebow. And ESPN embarrassed themselves in spending a week out there at Jets camp.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:28 PM   #2
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It was pretty well-known that Gottlieb was unhappy at ESPN and as you can see, it was for good reason.

He's a regular on Soren Petro's show on 810, FWIW.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:35 PM   #3
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ESPN is starting to give way too much time to the constant debates between Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless. Those things are starting to look staged.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:52 PM   #4
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ESPN is starting to give way too much time to the constant debates between Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless. Those things are starting to look staged.
I've always thought they were staged.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:52 PM   #5
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ESPN is starting to give way too much time to the constant debates between Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless. Those things are starting to look staged.
Very perceptive, because it is staged.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:39 PM   #6
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ESPN is starting to give way too much time to the constant debates between Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless. Those things are starting to look staged.
Id rather BME Olympic myself than watch those two idiots.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:33 PM   #7
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I stopped watching years ago. I couldn't stand the obsessions......Favre, Manning, Tebow, etc. They spend way too much time covering east coast teams, and hardly give any time to the Chiefs or Royals. And I hated all the stupid catch phrases from guys like Chris Berman, Stuart Scott, and everybody else.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:38 PM   #8
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I stopped watching years ago. I couldn't stand the obsessions......Favre, Manning, Tebow, etc. They spend way too much time covering east coast teams, and hardly give any time to the Chiefs or Royals. And I hated all the stupid catch phrases from guys like Chris Berman, Stuart Scott, and everybody else.
Not that I disagree with you.

But you said, in the span of about 8 words, that they spent too much time on Favre (Green Bay), Manning (Indianapolis), and Tebow (Denver) while simultaneously saying they spent too much time talking about east coast teams.

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Old 10-03-2012, 03:49 PM   #9
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I stopped watching years ago. I couldn't stand the obsessions......Favre, Manning, Tebow, etc. They spend way too much time covering east coast teams, and hardly give any time to the Chiefs or Royals. And I hated all the stupid catch phrases from guys like Chris Berman, Stuart Scott, and everybody else.
X2

I would rather they go back to their roots and cover sports like "Austrailian Rules Football."
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:35 PM   #10
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The Dan Patrick show is really great. It is the only TV\Radio sports talk type stuff I tune into.
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The Dan Patrick show is really great. It is the only TV\Radio sports talk type stuff I tune into.
There's a reason he left ESPN too.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:37 PM   #12
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The Dan Patrick show is really great. It is the only TV\Radio sports talk type stuff I tune into.
Yeah, I like him a lot too. He is like Bob Costas, no matter what the subject he always has an intelligent take that you want to listen to.
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:08 PM   #13
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Yeah, I like him a lot too. He is like Bob Costas, no matter what the subject he always has an intelligent take that you want to listen to.
And gives *great* interviews. That whole crew is...for the most part likable.
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #14
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ESPN has been almost total garbage for years. I stopped watching it about 6 years ago when it was clear that it was more about them than the sports and were doing cringeworthy stuff like that "town hall meeting" over Vick. They occasionally have something worthwhile (some of their E:60? and the 30 for 30 stuff was decent), but I definitely did not miss it when I stopped getting cable.

I did watch Sportscenter some here and there and they've toned it down to being ok. For a while there it was it was just about whatever two random dipshits they had doing it trying to come up with dumbass things to say. While I know that sounds like what Sportscenter has always been but it was so much worse. Say what you will about Berman and Stuart Scott (I'm not big fans of either one myself) but having two people that look like they're probably interns just randomly interjecting gibberish and then laughing about it made it impossible to even watch highlights/recaps.

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ESPN is starting to give way too much time to the constant debates between Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless. Those things are starting to look staged.
Both of them have been following the school of "act like a jackass and say outrageous things and get pissy when people call you on it" as long as they've been on ESPN. Its always been an act and ESPN has been building up to that for years. I always hoped their token "mediator" woman they'd push out there would just scream for them to , but they never did.

ESPN is now pretty much what this place is. Or at least was for the time I've been here until the season started and the Chiefs fully shit the bed and completely depressed everyone to the point no one can even really get worked up enough to fling textual feces at each other.

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The Dan Patrick show is really great. It is the only TV\Radio sports talk type stuff I tune into.
ESPN has some good personalities but for whatever reason they rarely show up on the channel any more. I get he has his radio show and stuff but they need more people like him and less like the murderer's row of blowhards they've been trotting out across the board. Its one thing for a late afternoon show like PTI or Around the Horn (never cared much for the former, and the latter was entertaining for like 6 months before it went full retard, actually I think I watched it for about a full year before it started to be more annoying than entertaining but it was my late afternoon sugar rush after classes), but for every single segment?

I get why they do it, but its still annoying as hell. Even other shows they seemed to be forcing people to act like stupid assholes, like Mike and Mike. It was decent serious (but not overtly so) discussion, and then they started having the smaller one act like a ****ing idiot half the time.

Van Pelt (Scott?) is another one that is rarely on but is how I think ESPN should portray itself. I think he does Sportscenter well. Him and, I don't know the guy's name, he has dark gray kinda curly hair and glasses. And of course Kenny Mayne. Steve Levy is solid too.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:43 PM   #15
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I used to have espn on while i got ready for work... at least until it became a horrible sports TMZ knockoff.
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