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Old 12-18-2012, 01:57 AM   Topic Starter
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Let's Research Fast and Furious (Obama's gun walking scandal)

We don't actually have to do too much research. It's all pretty well already out there and the left doesn't seem to care when it's brown people being shot.

But for those who are finding it in fashion to talk about gun violence, here is the basic run down of this scandal:

"Operation Fast and Furious - A federal operation dubbed Fast and Furious allowed weapons from the U.S. to pass into the hands of suspected gun smugglers so the arms could be traced to the higher echelons of Mexican drug cartels. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the operation, has lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which have been linked to crimes, including the fatal shooting of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December 2010."

Here is the entire book of coverage that the LA Times put together:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...0.storygallery


Make no mistake, if this was an operation that blew up in the face of a Republican, there would be hearing after hearing and likely even impeachment proceedings. It seems kind of hypocritical that when Obama gets caught presiding over the execution of an operation that sells guns to violent drug smugglers (and the guns get traced to horrific murders that include American agents), nobody cares.

I wouldn't mind so much about the left politically capitalizing on the deaths of these kids if they were consistent in their approach to capitalization. But when we have the commander in Chief who sold the guns to violent drug offenders getting on a memorial stage and declaring that something has to be done or we're all small people - that's a bit much to take.

Edit: Here's the wikipedia link to the Obama Gunwalking Scandal -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:04 AM   #2
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Do you not agree something has to be done?
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:08 AM   #3
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Do you not agree something has to be done?
There's nothing that can be done. You can't stop a pyschopath and getting on stage talking about violence when you oversaw the killing of an innocent American teenager because his father was a terrorist is disgusting.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:37 AM   #4
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Do you not agree something has to be done?
You mean about selling guns to violent drug cartels in border nations?
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:41 AM   #5
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Imagine if Mexico's government was caught selling semi automatic pistols to Meth cartels in America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven


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Old 12-18-2012, 06:52 PM   #6
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Imagine if Mexico's government was caught selling semi automatic pistols to Meth cartels in America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven


Do you not agree that something has to be done here?

That's a nice weapon.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:54 PM   #7
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That's a nice weapon.
not a weapon, merely a simple tracking device.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:55 PM   #8
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Hah. But seriously, I want one.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:04 PM   #9
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Hah. But seriously, I want one.
Yeah, no shit. I'd never even heard of that before.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:48 AM   #10
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Make no mistake, if this was an operation that blew up in the face of a Republican, there would be hearing after hearing and likely even impeachment proceedings. It seems kind of hypocritical that when Obama gets caught presiding over the execution of an operation that sells guns to violent drug smugglers (and the guns get traced to horrific murders that include American agents), nobody cares.
Too bad the Republicans don't have any power in the House, or they could start those impeachment hearings...
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:56 AM   #11
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Too bad the Republicans don't have any power in the House, or they could start those impeachment hearings...

Hahaha! This sort of hypocrisy is precious. "Oh we've got to do something about guns and violence! Oh what? The guy I voted for sold semi-automatic weapons to violent drug cartels? Oh, well then... SOMEONE ELSE has to do something about guns and violence! The Republicans! Let the try, the fools!!"

It doesn't bother me anymore that ya'll don't stand on any principle and you're just floating through life on your emotions. It used to. Now I just find it comical.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:29 AM   #12
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Hahaha! This sort of hypocrisy is precious. "Oh we've got to do something about guns and violence! Oh what? The guy I voted for sold semi-automatic weapons to violent drug cartels? Oh, well then... SOMEONE ELSE has to do something about guns and violence! The Republicans! Let the try, the fools!!"

It doesn't bother me anymore that ya'll don't stand on any principle and you're just floating through life on your emotions. It used to. Now I just find it comical.
There's no hypocrisy about it. You said that if it was a Republican, there would be impeachment hearings. And yet we have a Democrat in the Presidency and a Republican controlled house...and there are no impeachment hearings.

I think the entire thing was a ****ing mess. A disaster, if you will. Do I think people should be impeached over it? Uhh, no. I have no problem with those responsible being held accountable though. Fire them, and be done with it. If crimes were committed, hold them to it.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:35 AM   #13
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There's no hypocrisy about it. You said that if it was a Republican, there would be impeachment hearings. And yet we have a Democrat in the Presidency and a Republican controlled house...and there are no impeachment hearings.

I think the entire thing was a ****ing mess. A disaster, if you will. Do I think people should be impeached over it? Uhh, no. I have no problem with those responsible being held accountable though. Fire them, and be done with it. If crimes were committed, hold them to it.

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Old 12-18-2012, 03:37 AM   #14
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I don't know what this means. Don't you have a 9/11 conspiracy thread to bump soon? I think, this time, it might catch on.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:58 AM   #15
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Hahaha! This sort of hypocrisy is precious. "Oh we've got to do something about guns and violence! Oh what? The guy I voted for sold semi-automatic weapons to violent drug cartels? Oh, well then... SOMEONE ELSE has to do something about guns and violence! The Republicans! Let the try, the fools!!"

It doesn't bother me anymore that ya'll don't stand on any principle and you're just floating through life on your emotions. It used to. Now I just find it comical.
Well said.
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