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Old 12-27-2012, 03:18 PM   Topic Starter
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Don Banks from SI on Chiefs Coaching/GM

• Kansas City -- The general consensus among the league sources I interviewed was that the high level of fan unrest in Kansas City would probably lead Chiefs owner Clark Hunt to make the personally difficult decision to replace general manager Scott Pioli, and not just head coach Romeo Crennel. Hunt and Pioli remain close, so there's a chance Pioli returns, especially if there's a head coach hire that Pioli can sell to Hunt as the potential difference maker. Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz is a name long linked to Pioli dating from their days together in Cleveland, and he always surfaces as a possible Pioli hire.

If Pioli isn't retained, he won't be out of work for long, because his personnel judgments are still widely respected throughout the league -- at least outside of Kansas City. It was thought the Chiefs might pursue Bill Polian as a GM candidate, but sources say there has not been contact between the two, even though Polian was thought to be willing to listen.

Other potential GM hires by the Chiefs are plentiful, but they include San Francisco's Gamble, Green Bay director of football operations John Dorsey and Indianapolis vice president of football operations Tom Telesco.

Dorsey is known for having a good eye for talent, and his college scouting background gives him a strong draft pedigree. He has worked under both Ted Thompson and Ron Wolf in Green Bay, two of the most respected personnel evaluators in recent NFL history, and sources say he's ready and willing to pursue all GM opportunities after turning down offers to interview last year.

On the coaching side, Arians, who might win the NFL Coach of the Year award for the job he did as the Colts' interim, is a name that has surfaced in Kansas City. His track record for quarterback coaching is respected, and his résumé includes successful stints with the likes of Peyton Manning in Indy, Ben Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh and this year's impressive rookie season by the Colts' Andrew Luck.

On the defensive side of the ball, Cincinnati defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer has again done a superb job with the talent he has on hand, and his work has as much to do with the Bengals returning to the playoffs as any other factor. He has been long considered a quality head coaching candidate, and his son, Adam Zimmer, is currently a defensive assistant on Crennel's staff.

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Old 12-27-2012, 03:23 PM   #2
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:25 PM   #3
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That's the second source I've seen nationally that states that Pioli being fired isn't a sure thing. Sad.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:36 PM   #4
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That's the second source I've seen nationally that states that Pioli being fired isn't a sure thing. Sad.
That's because it's not a sure thing.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:43 PM   #5
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So without the fan unrest, Clark would be ok with what he's seeing on the field? I understand that the 2 go hand in hand to a large extent, but I hope Clark's focus moving forward is winning a championship and not just getting the fans back in Arrowhead.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:34 PM   #6
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So without the fan unrest, Clark would be ok with what he's seeing on the field? I understand that the 2 go hand in hand to a large extent, but I hope Clark's focus moving forward is winning a championship and not just getting the fans back in Arrowhead.
As we've been discussing in another thread, national writers are often lazy. A quick Wikipedia search shows that Pioli has won multiple "Executive of the Year" awards, and thus he must be good at his job. Seems like a sensible conclusion.

However, anyone who has paid a modicum of attention to what the man has accomplished away from the testicles of Hoodie and Brady would know what a fraud he is.

Additionally, we're fighting the national perception of fly-over country. We're too nice to boo a piece of shit NYer, and we're definitely too nice (and naive) to fire a genious like Pioli.

Well, **** 'em all. Pack your shit, Scott, and I hope that TSA boos your ass when the agent alerts group 5 that it's time to board.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:32 PM   #7
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That's because it's not a sure thing.
Don Banks just hasn't talked to anybody IN Kansas City. He even says so...

READ the article.
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Don Banks just hasn't talked to anybody IN Kansas City. He even says so...

READ the article.
I did. Now I challenge you to find/ READ ONE ARTICLE that affords definitive proof that Pioli is gone after the season. Until you find such stated facts -I'll hold on to my opnion that NOTHING is for certain yet. I'd love for you to be able to change my opinion.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:57 PM   #9
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I did. Now I challenge you to find/ READ ONE ARTICLE that affords definitive proof that Pioli is gone after the season. Until you find such stated facts -I'll hold on to my opnion that NOTHING is for certain yet. I'd love for you to be able to change my opinion.
I have talked to people that have seen it with their own eyes. Some of it has been posted here - like the fact that there were tubs and a two-wheel cart outside his office.
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That's the second source I've seen nationally that states that Pioli being fired isn't a sure thing. Sad.
I listen to sports radio all day at work. Seems the popular opinion Ive heard to date is Romeo and Cassell are gone, 100%. Pioli being gone is 50-50. Clark and Pioli are actually pretty close so the chance Pioli gets 1 more chance to get it right is pretty decent.

I personally think Pioli should be fired for his performance, or lack of, but the more I hear from football insiders thoughts on the subject I think it may be more likely he will be back. As far as the business side goes the Chiefs did ok.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:26 PM   #11
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I listen to sports radio all day at work. Seems the popular opinion Ive heard to date is Romeo and Cassell are gone, 100%. Pioli being gone is 50-50. Clark and Pioli are actually pretty close so the chance Pioli gets 1 more chance to get it right is pretty decent.

I personally think Pioli should be fired for his performance, or lack of, but the more I hear from football insiders thoughts on the subject I think it may be more likely he will be back. As far as the business side goes the Chiefs did ok.
But at the end of the day, pioli is the Grand Architect of this tornado of fail... if he doesnt get the axe, then no one should.

This all flowed down from the top like a spring river in the mountains... he's GOTTA go... Clark is burning piles of money like the Joker, otherwise.

If Clark isnt smart enough to see that, then God help us all.
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the NFL coach of the year award should go to Pete Carroll.

I would never give a COY to a Peyton Manning led team...or a Tom Brady led team...or an Aaron Rodgers led team...unless MAYBE the team went 16-0.
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Yes, because he's improved his win total from the previous season by 3 or 4 games compared to last season. And for being able to win 10/11 games his 3rd season in Seattle.
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Yes, because he's improved his win total from the previous season by 3 or 4 games compared to last season. And for being able to win 10/11 games his 3rd season in Seattle.
I think he's done an outstanding job this year with a rookie QB.

I'd give it to him or Mike Shanahan.

John Fox is inelgible for having Peyton Manning at QB.

Bruce Arians. Sure...luckiest team ever. The Colts are luckier than the 2010 Chiefs, and it's not close. If they land the #6 seed and play the Patriots...they will lose by 21+.

That team is one of those teams that is primed for a 5-11 next year. I think Andrew takes his BIG leap in year 3.
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I think he's done an outstanding job this year with a rookie QB.

I'd give it to him or Mike Shanahan.

John Fox is inelgible for having Peyton Manning at QB.

Bruce Arians. Sure...luckiest team ever. The Colts are luckier than the 2010 Chiefs, and it's not close. If they land the #6 seed and play the Patriots...they will lose by 21+.

That team is one of those teams that is primed for a 5-11 next year. I think Andrew takes his BIG leap in year 3.
I agree with you 100% about the Colts, however, I still think Arians has done a great job considering the circumstances.

Frazier has also done a good job, too.
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