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Old 01-13-2013, 09:27 AM   Topic Starter
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How many years left for our best players?

I know we are a very young team overall but the idea of "rebuilding" again that could take 3-4 years scares the shit out of me. I am impatient after 43 years of waiting for a SB appearance and 20 years for a playoff win.

I would hate to have our best players fizzle out in the prime of their careers. These are the only guys I care about at this point as superstars and I didn't include Eric Berry or Justin Houston due to their youth

Any guesstimates?

Brandon Flowers
Derrick Johnson
Tamba Hali
Brandon Albert
Jamaal Charles
Dwayne Bowe
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:28 AM   #2
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I have a feeling our best players are about to start getting drafted.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:33 AM   #3
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I have a feeling our best players are about to start getting drafted.
This.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:32 AM   #4
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I've said this before, but we were a very young team when Scooter took over.

We aren't any more. Most of our best players are in their primes or exiting them. There are only 2 guys on this roster that I see has having much room left for growth and the potential to be Pro-Bowl caliber players - Eric Berry and Dontari Poe.

Hali's already out of his prime and DJ's only a year or 2 behind that. Charles probably 3-4, Flowers and Bowe maybe 4-5 (though Flowers will probably start to decline sooner than that).

This isn't a 'young' team anymore. Scott Pioli wasted 4 years of some great players careers.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:35 AM   #5
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I've said this before, but we were a very young team when Scooter took over.

We aren't any more. Most of our best players are in their primes or exiting them. There are only 2 guys on this roster that I see has having much room left for growth and the potential to be Pro-Bowl caliber players - Eric Berry and Dontari Poe.

Hali's already out of his prime and DJ's only a year or 2 behind that. Charles probably 3-4, Flowers and Bowe maybe 4-5 (though Flowers will probably start to decline sooner than that).

This isn't a 'young' team anymore. Scott ***** wasted 4 years of some great players careers.
I would agree with this as well.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:40 AM   #6
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I've said this before, but we were a very young team when Scooter took over.

We aren't any more. Most of our best players are in their primes or exiting them. There are only 2 guys on this roster that I see has having much room left for growth and the potential to be Pro-Bowl caliber players - Eric Berry and Dontari Poe.

Hali's already out of his prime and DJ's only a year or 2 behind that. Charles probably 3-4, Flowers and Bowe maybe 4-5 (though Flowers will probably start to decline sooner than that).

This isn't a 'young' team anymore. Scott ***** wasted 4 years of some great players careers.
I don't think we have seen the best out of Justin Houston. He gets a good LB coach and the sky is the limmet. We get a young QB like Geno Smith and the team becomes young again even with the older players mentioned. Those guys with Andy Reid will have something to play for. Ray Lewis isn't at his best and they are winning with the QB they picked from the draft.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:50 AM   #7
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I don't think we have seen the best out of Justin Houston. He gets a good LB coach and the sky is the limmet. We get a young QB like Geno Smith and the team becomes young again even with the older players mentioned. Those guys with Andy Reid will have something to play for. Ray Lewis isn't at his best and they are winning with the QB they picked from the draft.
To this point, it appears that Gary Gibbs is remaning on staff as the LB coach.

But I agree that Houston has outstanding potential.

I also agree with DJ's LN overall, otherwise.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:55 AM   #8
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I also agree with DJ's LN overall, otherwise.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:35 AM   #10
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I don't think we have seen the best out of Justin Houston. He gets a good LB coach and the sky is the limmet. We get a young QB like Geno Smith and the team becomes young again even with the older players mentioned. Those guys with Andy Reid will have something to play for. Ray Lewis isn't at his best and they are winning with the QB they picked from the draft.
My bad...just forgot about him.

Yeah, Houston belongs on the list as well and I think we have a good 6 years out of Houston before we have anything to worry about there.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:31 PM   #11
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I've said this before, but we were a very young team when Scooter took over.

We aren't any more. Most of our best players are in their primes or exiting them. There are only 2 guys on this roster that I see has having much room left for growth and the potential to be Pro-Bowl caliber players - Eric Berry and Dontari Poe.

Hali's already out of his prime and DJ's only a year or 2 behind that. Charles probably 3-4, Flowers and Bowe maybe 4-5 (though Flowers will probably start to decline sooner than that).

This isn't a 'young' team anymore. Scott ***** wasted 4 years of some great players careers.
whoa "flowers & bowe maybe 4 - 5" you got to be joking.

DJ, Colquitt & Hali are from an era that fits "4 - 5" but the rest have twice that amt in them, sans Jamaal, who it will be tough to gage. But I'm thinking Jamaal will play another 5 - 6 seasons.

There is time for a championship within this group.
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whoa "flowers & bowe maybe 4 - 5" you got to be joking.

DJ, Colquitt & Hali are from an era that fits "4 - 5" but the rest have twice that amt in them, sans Jamaal, who it will be tough to gage. But I'm thinking Jamaal will play another 5 - 6 seasons.

There is time for a championship within this group.
Prime years?

That's what I'm referring to. Flowers and Bowe may still be on the roster after 5 years, but we'll need to be looking for replacements well before that because they will both be declining (and possibly quickly) at that point in their careers.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:39 PM   #13
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Prime years?

That's what I'm referring to. Flowers and Bowe may still be on the roster after 5 years, but we'll need to be looking for replacements well before that because they will both be declining (and possibly quickly) at that point in their careers.
Yep.


Which is why hitting on this franchise QB is so huge. You hit on that, you have some leeway in what you can start doing.


And I'm of the opinion that there are some next generation cornerstones here already, but not at the positions of guys named in the op.


Asamoah (who is underrated by the board), Hudson, Poe, Berry, Houston, can be the next level guys. You could throw Winston in there too.

****, looking at the guys we have on the roster, it's embarrassing at how badly we were this year. Coaching was criminal and guys underperformed at a high high rate.
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Prime years?

That's what I'm referring to. Flowers and Bowe may still be on the roster after 5 years, but we'll need to be looking for replacements well before that because they will both be declining (and possibly quickly) at that point in their careers.
oh okay, well I am framing this more like "how many years can these guys go and still help this team win big".

As veterans they will help too, obviously in that area of grooming those replacements. This has been a huge hole in the Chiefs over the past decade, is that there have been so few talented draftees that could have been groomed by veteran players such as the OL Vermeil assembled, etc. Bowe had Eddie K for his guy, but that was about the end of it.

Also, we will see prolonged careers in skills positions because of the pussy changes Goodell made.
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