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Old 01-16-2013, 12:58 AM   Topic Starter
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If not #1, where?

The draftniks keep saying that Geno Smith isn't worth the #1 pick.
None of them say he isn't the top QB in the class though.
If we don't take him at #1 how far is he realistically going to fall?

I see no scenario where he falls out of the Top 10.

So if he's the top QB in a weak class...
QB is our biggest need...
And he's gonna go Top 10 anyway...

Why not at #1?

Am I wrong to say he won't fall out of the Top 10?

Discuss...
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:02 AM   #2
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The draftniks keep saying that Geno Smith isn't worth the #1 pick.
None of them say he isn't the top QB in the class though.
If we don't take him at #1 how far is he realistically going to fall?

I see no scenario where he falls out of the Top 10.

So if he's the top QB in a weak class...
QB is our biggest need...
And he's gonna go Top 10 anyway...

Why not at #1?

Am I wrong to say he won't fall out of the Top 10?

Discuss...
The Draftniks are retarded. And they need to keep up business until April.

I mean Kiper had all the retards of the world convinced that Manti Te'o was going to be the #1 overall pick a month ago.

If these guys said, yeah, it's going to be Geno, then what else do they say for four months?

They got to sell newspapers somehow, keep their jobs relevant somehow, and what better way to do it than to keep flipping on guys right up until the actual draft.

It's going to be Geno.

And if it's not, he'll be gone by the second pick.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:07 AM   #3
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:14 AM   #4
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I said this the other day if you don't take him 1 who the hell are you gonna take?

There's a good chnace 6 QB's go in the 1st.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:28 AM   #5
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I remember the 2007 draft. Brady Quinn was thought to go in the top ten. He was in the draft room, cameras would pan on him anytime a potential team might pick him. Then he kept dropping down and down. Eventually Brady went to a private room behind the watching eyes of everyone as the debacle unfolded. You felt embarrassed for the poor guy. This wasn't suppose to happen, not now!

Certain Chief fans on here were thinking the Chiefs should draft down and nab him, they had to have him! It could have been the golden moment to shine according to some of our draft "gurus" using that term loosely i might add.

Cleveland the next day was heralded in the sports pages that they stole the draft, even gave them an A grade.

I ask you, did Brady Quinn pan out over the years? Did He?
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:41 AM   #6
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I remember the 2007 draft. Brady Quinn was thought to go in the top ten. He was in the draft room, cameras would pan on him anytime a potential team might pick him. Then he kept dropping down and down. Eventually Brady went to a private room behind the watching eyes of everyone as the debacle unfolded. You felt embarrassed for the poor guy. This wasn't suppose to happen, not now!

Certain Chief fans on here were thinking the Chiefs should draft down and nab him, they had to have him! It could have been the golden moment to shine according to some of our draft "gurus" using that term loosely i might add.

Cleveland the next day was heralded in the sports pages that they stole the draft, even gave them an A grade.

I ask you, did Brady Quinn pan out over the years? Did He?
Well that's nice and all is the moral of this that you are scared to take a QB just because?
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:42 AM   #7
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I remember the 2007 draft. Brady Quinn was thought to go in the top ten. He was in the draft room, cameras would pan on him anytime a potential team might pick him. Then he kept dropping down and down. Eventually Brady went to a private room behind the watching eyes of everyone as the debacle unfolded. You felt embarrassed for the poor guy. This wasn't suppose to happen, not now!

Certain Chief fans on here were thinking the Chiefs should draft down and nab him, they had to have him! It could have been the golden moment to shine according to some of our draft "gurus" using that term loosely i might add.

Cleveland the next day was heralded in the sports pages that they stole the draft, even gave them an A grade.

I ask you, did Brady Quinn pan out over the years? Did He?
Brady Quinn got wrapped into a media shitstorm where they love to pop boners over everything Notre Dame. Notre Dame can **** off forever.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:33 AM   #8
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Brady Quinn got wrapped into a media shitstorm where they love to pop boners over everything Notre Dame. Notre Dame can **** off forever.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:01 AM   #9
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I remember the 2007 draft. Brady Quinn was thought to go in the top ten. He was in the draft room, cameras would pan on him anytime a potential team might pick him. Then he kept dropping down and down. Eventually Brady went to a private room behind the watching eyes of everyone as the debacle unfolded. You felt embarrassed for the poor guy. This wasn't suppose to happen, not now!

Certain Chief fans on here were thinking the Chiefs should draft down and nab him, they had to have him! It could have been the golden moment to shine according to some of our draft "gurus" using that term loosely i might add.

Cleveland the next day was heralded in the sports pages that they stole the draft, even gave them an A grade.

I ask you, did Brady Quinn pan out over the years? Did He?
i ask you, did Aaron Rodgers pan out over the years? Did He?


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Old 01-16-2013, 07:50 AM   #10
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I remember the 2007 draft. Brady Quinn was thought to go in the top ten. He was in the draft room, cameras would pan on him anytime a potential team might pick him. Then he kept dropping down and down. Eventually Brady went to a private room behind the watching eyes of everyone as the debacle unfolded. You felt embarrassed for the poor guy. This wasn't suppose to happen, not now!

Certain Chief fans on here were thinking the Chiefs should draft down and nab him, they had to have him! It could have been the golden moment to shine according to some of our draft "gurus" using that term loosely i might add.

Cleveland the next day was heralded in the sports pages that they stole the draft, even gave them an A grade.

I ask you, did Brady Quinn pan out over the years? Did He?
There was a reason Quinn dropped. He had character issues that were uncovered in the evaluation process. Most people didn't know about that until late in the game. That's how it works, we have to go on the information we have, and so far there aren't any of that kind of negative on Smith. Maybe there will be in April. Maybe there won't. Who knows. But it's a porous argument, because Quinn should have dropped, based on his character, and I think everyone would agree with that, now that we have the information. And I think everyone would be okay with the team not drafting Smith, if there was something like that on the books about him.

Otherwise, I have yet to hear a good, valid explanation for why Smith is not a #1 caliber pick. I hear a lot of hemming and hawing and "well, I don't actually know very much about him, but he isn't any good IMO" and "he lost 6 games, he sux!", but I have yet to see any meaningful point against him made that can't be countered (to an extensive degree in most cases) with actual video evidence.

People are just gunshy.
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I remember the 2007 draft. Brady Quinn was thought to go in the top ten. He was in the draft room, cameras would pan on him anytime a potential team might pick him. Then he kept dropping down and down. Eventually Brady went to a private room behind the watching eyes of everyone as the debacle unfolded. You felt embarrassed for the poor guy. This wasn't suppose to happen, not now!

Certain Chief fans on here were thinking the Chiefs should draft down and nab him, they had to have him! It could have been the golden moment to shine according to some of our draft "gurus" using that term loosely i might add.

Cleveland the next day was heralded in the sports pages that they stole the draft, even gave them an A grade.

I ask you, did Brady Quinn pan out over the years? Did He?
It's irrelevant. If KC had made that move I would say at least they tried. Had they drafted Brady Quinn there probably would have been another chance to draft his replacement. The other possibility is that we did a better job of coaching him up. By the time he got to the Chiefs he was already broken, never taught the proper way to do things.
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It's irrelevant. If KC had made that move I would say at least they tried. Had they drafted Brady Quinn there probably would have been another chance to draft his replacement. The other possibility is that we did a better job of coaching him up. By the time he got to the Chiefs he was already broken, never taught the proper way to do things.
You know, I think this is a bullshit excuse: Either you can play the QB or you can't.

Rob Chudzinski didn't ruin Brady Quinn.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:38 PM   #13
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You know, I think this is a bullshit excuse: Either you can play the QB or you can't.

Rob Chudzinski didn't ruin Brady Quinn.
Yep.

Alot of times, it seems its more a mental thing. But, I do think it also has to be a system match with the QB, as some guys excel at some systems others don't.


In the end though, either you ahve it or you don't.
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If you watch Mitch's interview with Dorsey, he talks about taking the BPA and how it's his philosiphy. He talks about how they kept taking WRs like Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb in Green Bay for example when they didn't need them.

I might get killed for this but, Geno probably isn't the best player available at #1 per Dorsey's terms imo. It is probably Luke Joeckel, Star Lotulelei, or Jarvis Jones. Those guys are probably the best prospects in the draft.

Geno might be the best QB prospect in the draft but, he's probably not going to be the best player on the Chiefs board. For example, Per Dorsey's draft strategy, I believe we would even take Jarvis Jones if he was the best player on the board. Even though we already have Houston and Hali.

I'm sure many won't like it but, he basically said it himself. He doesn't draft for need.
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I said this the other day if you don't take him 1 who the hell are you gonna take?

There's a good chnace 6 QB's go in the 1st.
Identify your #1 team need
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Go get your target. Who cares where hes selected as long as he pans out.


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