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Old 01-24-2013, 08:54 AM   Topic Starter
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DoD lifts ban on women in combat

Does this mean that women will now have to register with the Selective Service as well?



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In a historic action, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta today will remove the ban on women in combat that has excluded them from jobs ranging from infantry squad leaders and tank gunners to commandoes.

The decision, praised by women's advocates but denounced by the conservative Family Research Council, ends a 1994 Pentagon policy that barred women from high-risk ground combat jobs.

Women often have seen combat anyway over the past decade, as 283,000 of them went to Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a Congressional Research Service report, with 144 killed and 855 wounded.

“I remember in 1990 when we went into the first Gulf War, there was an uproar about women going to the front lines and talking about women being taken away from their children and having to go to war, having to go into combat,” said Bexar County Sheriff Susan Pamerleau, a retired Air Force major general.

“Then when we went into the Iraqi war (in 2003), there were no longer those kinds of issues,” she said. “Those issues weren't raised because people were recognizing that we've done this for a long time, women are trained to do this.”

Military officials said Panetta would unveil details in a news conference this afternoon.

An implementation period is expected, though details of how the service branches will phase in the policy weren't clear.

Anu Bhagwati, executive director of Service Women's Action Network, which joined three officers and an Army staff sergeant in lawsuit led by the ACLU to overturn the policy, called the decision a historic moment.

The policy, and laws before it, were rooted in a military long segregated by color, ethnicity and gender. But barriers to women had fallen over the decades, especially after the Women's Army Corps was disbanded in 1978.

The combat exclusion policy had barred women from serving in around 238,000 jobs, said Bhagwati, who noted that many of those positions set the stage for higher-ranking assignments. Giving women the chance to compete for combat roles, she predicted, would improve retention and recruiting.

Women make up 14 percent of the 1.4 million troops in the armed forces



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Old 01-24-2013, 08:55 AM   #2
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:57 AM   #3
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:04 AM   #4
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:10 AM   #5
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Was listening to a talk show on the way home last night and most of the women were very much against it. Something to the affect of “well what if we have a draft again and they don’t want to go but now they don’t have a choice.” I found it annoying. Welcome to the adult table.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:14 AM   #6
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Was listening to a talk show on the way home last night and most of the women were very much against it. Something to the affect of “well what if we have a draft again and they don’t want to go but now they don’t have a choice.” I found it annoying. Welcome to the adult table.
Cake and eat it too. IMO it's not a good idea for a myriad of reasons, but don't let that stop anyone...maybe we can form a PC Battalion...but hell yeah, draft them too if we're going this route.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:23 AM   #7
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Cake and eat it too. IMO it's not a good idea for a myriad of reasons, but don't let that stop anyone...maybe we can form a PC Battalion...but hell yeah, draft them too if we're going this route.
It will be a problem when they lower the physical standards so woman can qualify. The nature of the conflicts we seem to be in these days women are already getting shot at and returning fire. To exempt/ban over 50% of our population due to their gender just isn’t cricket. The fact that women are not required to register for the draft (just like men do) is sexual discrimination against the minority class known as men. If they are not strong enough to be a grunt reassign them to a task they are capable of. For what it is worth I never want to see the day the draft is reinstated in this country.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:42 AM   #8
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It will be a problem when they lower the physical standards so woman can qualify.
You mean like they've done in many of the fire and police departments?

There are always exceptions to the rule, but there are physical differences between men and women and it seems ridiculous to ignore them...and that's only ONE aspect of this whole thing.
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You mean like they've done in many of the fire and police departments?
yes that is exactly what I mean
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It will be a problem when they lower the physical standards so woman can qualify. The nature of the conflicts we seem to be in these days women are already getting shot at and returning fire. To exempt/ban over 50% of our population due to their gender just isn’t cricket. The fact that women are not required to register for the draft (just like men do) is sexual discrimination against the minority class known as men. If they are not strong enough to be a grunt reassign them to a task they are capable of. For what it is worth I never want to see the day the draft is reinstated in this country.
Relax--whatever shortcomings they have, they will certainly make up for it with keeping the barracks tidy, sammiches, and the occasional handie--all of which will increase overall morale. Amirite?
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:16 AM   #11
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Was listening to a talk show on the way home last night and most of the women were very much against it. Something to the affect of “well what if we have a draft again and they don’t want to go but now they don’t have a choice.” I found it annoying. Welcome to the adult table.
heh, yea it will be interesting to see in a few years if this drops recruiting numbers for women.
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Horrible, stupid idea, considering the types of ****ing animals we're fighting right now.

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:12 PM   #14
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I hate it.
I hate war. The gender fighting it is pretty much meaningless to me. Israel has female compulsory service. Be interesting to see now that they can if any of them will actually step up and volunteer.
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I hate war. The gender fighting it is pretty much meaningless to me. Israel has female compulsory service. Be interesting to see now that they can if any of them will actually step up and volunteer.
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