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Old 01-28-2013, 11:50 PM   Topic Starter
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Teicher's Garbage Part Deux: Star's Top 10 QB's

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The Star’s NFL Draft top 10: Grading the QBs
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January 28
BY ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Following last week’s Senior Bowl, we’ve decided to spend this week’s edition of The Star’s NFL Draft top 10 on quarterbacks. Arkansas’ Tyler Wilson, North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon, Syracuse’s Ryan Nassib, Miami of Ohio’s Zac Dysert, Oklahoma’s Landry Jones and Florida State’s EJ Manuel participated. While the Chiefs likely won’t take any quarterback with the first pick, keep in mind that with the scouting combine, school and personal workouts and interviews, there’s still time for these prospects and others to climb the board.

• 1. Wilson. He completed eight of 11 passes in the game but for just 40 yards.

• 2. Geno Smith, West Virginia. Opted not to play in the Senior Bowl but can make up ground over the next three months.

• 3. Glennon. Completed eight of 16 passes and had the game’s longest completion of 22 yards.

• 4. Matt Barkley, USC. Didn’t play in the Senior Bowl because of a sprained throwing shoulder.

• 5. Nassib. Was just four of 10 with an interception.

• 6. Tyler Bray, Tennessee. Came out for draft as a junior, so he was ineligible to play in the Senior Bowl.

• 7. Dysert. Was 10 of 16 with a touchdown and an interception.

• 8. Jones. Was just three of nine and was sacked twice.

• 9. Matt Scott, Arizona. Just a one-year starter, but a dual-threat quarterback who can run as well as throw.

• 10. Manuel. Was seven for 10 with a touchdown. He also rushed for a touchdown.

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Barkley>Glennon

Manuel>Jones

Bray>Nassib

Geno is still ahead of Wilson right now too, and I'm a Wilson fan.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:53 PM   #3
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Barkley>Glennon

Manuel>Jones

Bray>Nassib

Geno is still ahead of Wilson right now too, and I'm a Wilson fan.
The problem with this whole mess right now, is people don't understand what it is they are ranking, why one player is ahead of another, and so forth. One media outlet ranks guys based on Variable A, people scream at it. Another media outlet ranks guys based on Variable B, people scream at it. Another media outlet ranks guys based on where they believe they will be drafted based on team needs and fitment with said teams, and where those teams will draft. People scream at it.


So lets look at the big picture here. While Geno is the unanimous #1 right now, it isn't like he's head and shoulders above the rest, like Luck/RG3 were. This is going to come as a shock to people, but just because Geno is ranked #1 for QB talent in this draft (regardless how little the separation truly is) it doesn't mean he's a lock for the #1 QB taken in the draft, nor the #1 selection. For all we know, Wilson could be the guy who Andy Reid thinks fits our offense the best. Since there is very little actual separation between Wilson and Smith, Wilson could easily be the #1 draft pick. However, if the consensus of our FO believes Wilson will be available in the 2nd round, and is still THE BEST QB in their eyes for this team, they aren't going to spend a #1 draft pick on him. They'll be communicating with other teams to get a feel for where they rank Wilson as well, and might even make a move back into the first round to get him.

The Chiefs could pull a Browns move and go get their Star Tackle with their first selection, then trade back into the first and get their QBOTF with their second selection. Lets just hope it doesn't end up Brady Quinn lol.

Now, if I were to rank them in terms of the play I feel will fit into a Chiefs/Reid mold from the last 2-3 years, I'm going with this.

Smith>Wilson>/only two prospects worth a first rounder right now in my eyes/ > Bray>Barkley(ewww)>Nassib=Glennon>Manuel>life>universe>everything>Jones
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The problem with this whole mess right now, is people don't understand what it is they are ranking, why one player is ahead of another, and so forth. One media outlet ranks guys based on Variable A, people scream at it. Another media outlet ranks guys based on Variable B, people scream at it. Another media outlet ranks guys based on where they believe they will be drafted based on team needs and fitment with said teams, and where those teams will draft. People scream at it.


So lets look at the big picture here. While Geno is the unanimous #1 right now, it isn't like he's head and shoulders above the rest, like Luck/RG3 were. This is going to come as a shock to people, but just because Geno is ranked #1 for QB talent in this draft (regardless how little the separation truly is) it doesn't mean he's a lock for the #1 QB taken in the draft, nor the #1 selection. For all we know, Wilson could be the guy who Andy Reid thinks fits our offense the best. Since there is very little actual separation between Wilson and Smith, Wilson could easily be the #1 draft pick. However, if the consensus of our FO believes Wilson will be available in the 2nd round, and is still THE BEST QB in their eyes for this team, they aren't going to spend a #1 draft pick on him. They'll be communicating with other teams to get a feel for where they rank Wilson as well, and might even make a move back into the first round to get him.

The Chiefs could pull a Browns move and go get their Star Tackle with their first selection, then trade back into the first and get their QBOTF with their second selection. Lets just hope it doesn't end up Brady Quinn lol.

Now, if I were to rank them in terms of the play I feel will fit into a Chiefs/Reid mold from the last 2-3 years, I'm going with this.

Smith>Wilson>/only two prospects worth a first rounder right now in my eyes/ > Bray>Barkley(ewww)>Nassib=Glennon>Manuel>life>universe>everything>Jones


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Or we could simply resign our stud LT we have now and draft Geno #1, I know it's a new concept to most morons but I figured I would point that out for you.
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Or we could simply resign our stud LT we have now and draft Geno #1, I know it's a new concept to most morons but I figured I would point that out for you.
That doesn't fit the hypothetical scenario being tossed around according to the article.

Letting Albert go is the worst thing this FO could do all offseason.

But getting back to a point the "morons" cannot swallow yet.

lets say Geno is the guy for our team, our FO and HC are sold on him, he has a terrible combine/pro day or others have great ones that blow people away. Geno slides to a second round prospect.

Do you spend the #1 draft on Geno still? Or do you spend it on the new #1 overall QB? Do you spend your #1 on a non QB and your 2nd rounder on Geno?

What would you do given that hypothetical scenario.
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this is why you should pay for the star....effort

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too much hypothetical here. Geno is the pick/deal done/thx!
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Deal is done after the senior bowl, before the combine, before pro days, and before individual work outs?

Interesting.
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The best Qbs will be long gone before the 2nd round. It happens every year in the modern NFL because the position is so important. You use the number 1 pick overall to take a guy that you know will improve your team the most. Since we have no QB at all and it is the most important position then wouldn't we take a QB to improve the team the most? Just don't screw around trying to look smart and end up with Matt Blunden or the jokes on you.
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The best Qbs will be long gone before the 2nd round. It happens every year in the modern NFL because the position is so important. You use the number 1 pick overall to take a guy that you know will improve your team the most. Since we have no QB at all and it is the most important position then wouldn't we take a QB to improve the team the most? Just don't screw around trying to look smart and end up with Matt Blunden or the jokes on you.
Buts it is totally okay to draft the next Tim Couch, Matt Leinart, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, Blaine Gabbert, Brady Quinn, etc.?

Its okay to bust on a 1st round QB, but its not okay to pass on a QB you aren't sure about?

That sounds backasswwards.

Cincy did just fine in 2011.
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