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Old 01-29-2013, 05:56 AM   Topic Starter
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DHS places and order for 7k select-fire rifles for personal defense

On 7 June 2012, the Department of Homeland security drew up a proposal to purchase 7k select-fire rifles in a 5.56x45mm caliber. In that proposal, the rifles are described as follows:

"DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and/or when maximum concealment is required." (Section C(PDW)ver 7.pdf - available in the below link)

Suitable for personal defense in close quarters or maximum concealment, eh? Sounds like a kind of situation one might encounter in their own home and faced with an intruder.

It seems as if in the eyes of the government these are select-fire personal defense tools in the hands of one of their agents. In the hands of a good law abiding citizens they are semi-automatic assault rifle mass killing machines.

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https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d791b6aa0fd9d3d8833b2efa08300033&tab=core&_cview=0


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Old 01-29-2013, 06:34 AM   #2
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:00 AM   #3
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:22 AM   #4
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Reading isn't one of your strengths... is it?
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:56 AM   #5
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Reading isn't one of your strengths... is it?
Your "point", such that it is, is that it's hypocritical for the government to have armaments not available to the general public.

It's a stupid argument, ftr. Protecting yourself against some methhead home invader in the armpit that is Wichita doesn't require the same firepower as a SEAL team raid in Abbottabad.

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Old 01-29-2013, 08:16 AM   #6
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Your "point", such that it is, is that it's hypocritical for the government to have armaments not available to the general public.

It's a stupid argument, ftr. Protecting yourself against some methhead home invader in the armpit that is Witchita doesn't require the same firepower as a SEAL team raid in Abbottabad.
It isn't the same firepower.

"Select Fire"

Look it up and get back to us when you are more educated on the subject.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:20 AM   #7
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It isn't the same firepower.

"Select Fire"

Look it up and get back to us when you are more educated on the subject.
This is nonsense.

Every citizen should have the same access to the same weaponry as DHS officials, I assume, is your argument.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:13 AM   #8
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It isn't the same firepower.

"Select Fire"

Look it up and get back to us when you are more educated on the subject.
I'm aware of what select fire means.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:38 AM   #9
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Your "point", such that it is, is that it's hypocritical for the government to have armaments not available to the general public.
Look here dummy. This type of ammo is not allowed in our own ARMED FORCES & IS BANNED BY THE UN.
It is for 1 thing & 1 thing only. To be used against America.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:14 AM   #10
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And why does the government get to jail people, but when I do it it's "imprisonment"?

Huh? Hm?
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:29 AM   #11
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Didn't exactly answer my question, did you.

Should every citizen should have the same access to the same firearms as DHS officials.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:04 AM   #12
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Didn't exactly answer my question, did you.

Should every citizen should have the same access to the same firearms as DHS officials.
Yes....here's why

What is the DHS for? It's not to fight terrorism. Govt has gotten completely and utterly out of control. Al-Qaeda isn't going to go into your local Applebees and blow up the joint.

The ONLY reason for govt to pass gun control on its citizens is so there is no last-resort resistance for when everything goes to complete hell and the govt suspends the constitution and declares martial law.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:06 AM   #13
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Yes....here's why

What is the DHS for? It's not to fight terrorism. Govt has gotten completely and utterly out of control. Al-Qaeda isn't going to go into your local Applebees and blow up the joint.

The ONLY reason for govt to pass gun control on its citizens is so there is no last-resort resistance for when everything goes to complete hell and the govt suspends the constitution and declares martial law.
The INS (I refuse to call it ICE) and border security say hi.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:19 AM   #14
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Yes....here's why

What is the DHS for? It's not to fight terrorism. Govt has gotten completely and utterly out of control. Al-Qaeda isn't going to go into your local Applebees and blow up the joint.

The ONLY reason for govt to pass gun control on its citizens is so there is no last-resort resistance for when everything goes to complete hell and the govt suspends the constitution and declares martial law.
Ever heard of the Coast Guard, Secret Service, INS, Customs, Federal Protective Service?
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:13 AM   #15
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Ever heard of the Coast Guard, Secret Service, INS, Customs, Federal Protective Service?
The amt of ammo and guns that are being spent by the federal govt does open any eyes to any of you?

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