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Old 02-04-2013, 08:54 AM   Topic Starter
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The blatant hold on the safety play in SB...

The rusher literally got piggyback bear-hugged. Why wasn't it called?

Now, I get that even if they had called it, the play would have resulted in a safety anyways, but it was obvious that they intended to hold to allow the punter to use as much time as possible. They have rules to prevent teams from taking a penalty in order to save time, shouldn't there be a rule to prevent teams from playing illegally to kill more time?


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Old 02-04-2013, 08:55 AM   #2
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I was more gassed by the Baltimore player taking a swing at the ref after the melee in the first half, no flag and no ejection.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:57 AM   #3
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I was more gassed by the Baltimore player taking a swing at the ref after the melee in the first half, no flag and no ejection.
yeah, the kid from Washburn University. Lucky he wasn't ejected.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:58 AM   #4
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:59 AM   #5
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:58 AM   #6
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I was more gassed by the Baltimore player taking a swing at the ref after the melee in the first half, no flag and no ejection.
Yea I was shocked at that. Cary Williams got really lucky there.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:14 AM   #7
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I was more gassed by the Baltimore player taking a swing at the ref after the melee in the first half, no flag and no ejection.
Cary Williams. Dude should have been ejected immediately. That was bullshit.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:19 AM   #8
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Cary Williams. Dude should have been ejected immediately. That was bullshit.
It was obvious he wasn't targeting the ref. he got up and lashed out, the ref just happened to be in the way.

Sure, by the letter of the law, he should have been ejected. But I kind like the way the game was officiated "fast and loose".
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:21 AM   #9
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It was obvious he wasn't targeting the ref. he got up and lashed out, the ref just happened to be in the way.

Sure, by the letter of the law, he should have been ejected. But I kind like the way the game was officiated "fast and loose".
I wanted the 49'ers to win.

That said it's the SB.

And they got away with a TON of holding calls. In fact, I don't remember one being called...
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:23 AM   #10
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It was obvious he wasn't targeting the ref. he got up and lashed out, the ref just happened to be in the way.

Sure, by the letter of the law, he should have been ejected. But I kind like the way the game was officiated "fast and loose".
So what was his explanation for continuing to scream at the ref and follow him around for?

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Old 02-04-2013, 09:28 AM   #11
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So what was his explanation for continuing to scream at the ref and follow him around for?
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Ravens cornerback Cary Williams called shoving a ref “a reaction,” and said he didn’t know who he was moving out of the pile during the second quarter fight that would have drawn more attention if it wasn’t followed by a brownout.

But he also called the 49ers “a little dirty,” and said his helmet was “kicked off.”

After Ed Reed’s interception triggered an altercation (“brawl” seems excessive, perhaps “melee” fits better) Williams clearly shoved an official with two hands, and could have been ejected on the spot.

“It was a situation where I didn’t see who the heck I pushed,” Williams said, via Lindsay Jones of USA Today. Those guys kicked my helmet off, took my helmet off man, it’s just a part of the process. Whatever.

“It’s a reaction. You see teammates out there getting hit late, guys pulling guys after the whistle. My helmet came off, I couldn’t barely see, and I just reacted. It is what it is.”

Williams correctly assessed that the fight was the result of nearly a half of chippy play that went unchecked, and was eventually going to boil over because game officials didn’t have control of the proceedings.

“The offensive line trying to be tough. Be tough between the whistles man. Don’t pull that crap after the damn whistle, man. I mean, I just felt like those guys were a little dirty. The refs should have thrown flags on them early on them in the game to stop that junk,” Williams said. “Sometimes you’ve got to retaliate, sometimes you have to show people we aren’t going to be pushed around. We do this. That’s been part of the Ravens defense for years, to show toughness, but we do it between the whistles.”

He was fortunate he was able to do it at all in the second half, as he should have been sitting in the dark with the fans watching.
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So what was his explanation for continuing to scream at the ref and follow him around for?

I didn't see him do that at all. Watch that video again, he's yelling at the 49er player right in front of him.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:33 AM   #13
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So what was his explanation for continuing to scream at the ref and follow him around for?
He was going after the 49er and the ref continued keep them apart. He really should have been ejected for that push though. It's not like he couldn't see who he was shoving.

Overall, I liked that the teams moved the ball and not the zebras, still like others have said it's hard to accept that two of the most physical teams in football didn't hold the living hell out of each other on a lot of plays.

The Ravens only penalties where roughing the QB and running into the kicker? Wow.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:26 AM   #14
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I was more gassed by the Baltimore player taking a swing at the ref after the melee in the first half, no flag and no ejection.
This will be talked about for a long time. Not that it matters, each game has its own storyline, but somebody will pull this up and say that precedent has been set... And the NFL will laugh... But it's actually a good point that will be forgotten...
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:37 AM   #15
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Yeah, the more I watched that play, the 49ers should have gotten the call. That was far beyond normal contact.

I was wondering if the refs no-called it because the all was so overthrown, but if the receiver wasn't being blatantly held it might've been catchable It would've been a tough catch at best since it was overthrown a bit, but he would've had a shot.
I think that since it was a fade pattern and the ball was just lobbed up there, Crabtree would have made the play if he hadn't been held.

If I were a 49er fan, I'd be livid over that, the crappy pass interference AGAINST the 49ers on the drive right before that kept that drive alive, and the non-call on the 2-point conversion where Ed Reed arrived in the backfield at the same time as the snap.
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