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Old 02-13-2013, 08:36 PM   Topic Starter
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Gun grabbing hits the heartland. Missouri House Bill 545

http://www.nraila.org/media/10886389/mo_hb_545.pdf

There is no grandfathering. So much for the... this won't affect law abiding gun owners, right?

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4. Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession
66 of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective
67 date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution:
68 (1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of
69 Missouri;
70 (2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or
71 (3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law
72 enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.
73 5. Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an
74 assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:43 PM   #2
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:44 PM   #3
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From what I see there is no movement on this bill and I doubt there will be. Or hell will be paid.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:54 PM   #4
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LOL sounds like there are more than a few democrats who really don't want to get elected.

But honestly even from a democrats point of view the gun control debate is stupid strategy. It places EVERY swing state in play because it is a single issue vote for some people. You risk getting anyone who supports the policy in red or pink or even light blue states beaten and you will turn perception of those same states against you.

Plus...the policies as proposed have little to no positive impact on crime. Worst of all...absent a major change on the Supreme court most of the assault weapons bans and magazine capacity restrictions are going to get thrown out. Because they went TOO far with new restrictions.

In short you will have no impact on crime(that much is 110% certain), you are likely to get state gun control bills in effect before the shooting invalidated. AND it is almost certain to have a negative impact on the party as a whole politically!

Why again are the democrats pushing this? Do they want to be certain the congressional losses in 94 was due to the AWB? I could understand pushing this if it had any chance at all in reducing crime. But the science here is almost definitive. It will have no impact in the murder rate and no impact in the violent crime rate because 98+% of weapons used in crimes aren't assault weapons.....

But hey if you want to reinvigorate the right by being idiots that's your choice....Really dumb tactical move. But that's what you get from both parties since they are both filled with the most extreme of extremists.....
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:57 PM   #5
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LOL sounds like there are more than a few democrats who really don't want to get elected.

But honestly even from a democrats point of view the gun control debate is stupid strategy. It places EVERY swing state in play because it is a single issue vote for some people. You risk getting anyone who supports the policy in red or pink or even light blue states beaten and you will turn perception of those same states against you.

Plus...the policies as proposed have little to no positive impact on crime. Worst of all...absent a major change on the Supreme court most of the assault weapons bans and magazine capacity restrictions are going to get thrown out. Because they went TOO far with new restrictions.

In short you will have no impact on crime(that much is 110% certain), you are likely to get state gun control bills in effect before the shooting invalidated. AND it is almost certain to have a negative impact on the party as a whole politically!

Why again are the democrats pushing this? Do they want to be certain the congressional losses in 94 was due to the AWB? I could understand pushing this if it had any chance at all in reducing crime. But the science here is almost definitive. It will have no impact in the murder rate and no impact in the violent crime rate because 98+% of weapons used in crimes aren't assault weapons.....

But hey if you want to reinvigorate the right by being idiots that's your choice....Really dumb tactical move. But that's what you get from both parties since they are both filled with the most extreme of extremists.....
Every one of these lowlife ****s is from a St. Louis area district.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:04 PM   #6
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This sucks. I received this email from NRAILA the other day. I thought about posting it here, but thought it was much ado about nothing, since I figured we had to be pretty safe here in MO.

I guess not. I've already contacted my senators and rep to tell them to stop it. Even though it's tame compared to this latest one.





Missouri: Bills Introduced to Restrict Your Gun Rights

Now that the 2013 session of the Missouri General Assembly has convened, your NRA-ILA has learned of some disturbing anti-gun bills that have been introduced. These bills are designed to infringe upon the rights of law-abiding citizens and would do nothing to address criminal activity.

Senate Bill 124, sponsored by state Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal (D-14), requires a parent or guardian to notify a school district, or the governing body of a private or charter school, that he or she owns a firearm within thirty days of enrolling the child in school or becoming the owner of a firearm. This legislation does nothing but require a parent or guardian to reveal private information of gun ownership and in no way would this requirement deter crime. SB 124 has been assigned to the Senate General Laws Committee.

House Bill 187, sponsored by state Representative Stacey Newman (D-87), would require all sales or transfers of firearms be processed through a licensed firearms dealer. This type of legislation is the first step in “universal registration” and clearly over-reaches and infringes on our Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Imagine a grandfather who wants to give a family shotgun to his twelve-year-old grandson having to conduct a criminal background check on his grandson before passing down the shotgun.

It is ALREADY a federal felony for any private person to sell, trade, give, lend, rent or transfer a gun to a person you know or should have known is not legally allowed to own, purchase or possess a firearm. Further regulation is only infringing upon the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Missouri gun owners.

Gun control measures have proven time and time again to be useless at reducing violent crime rates. Criminals, by definition, have zero regard for the law. Criminals simply do not obey gun bans, register their firearms or comply with any gun control schemes. As a result, only law-abiding citizens will obey the law and be left defenseless. Anti-gun measures are successful at one thing only - encroaching on law-abiding citizens’ Second Amendment rights!

While these bills have not yet been scheduled for committee hearings, we ask that you contact your state Senator and state Representative TODAY and respectfully urge him or her to oppose SB 124 and HB 187 respectively.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:08 PM   #7
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Imagine a grandfather who wants to give a family shotgun to his twelve-year-old grandson having to conduct a criminal background check on his grandson before passing down the shotgun.
This line is getting as old as gramps' shotgun.
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This line is getting as old as gramps' shotgun.
Not near as old as take it in the ass shitbag left wing assholes endlessly trying to take our guns~
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:47 PM   #9
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Not near as old as take it in the ass shitbag left wing assholes endlessly trying to take our guns~
I wonder how many on here actually support gun control. I bet it's fewer than you think.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:06 PM   #10
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I wonder how many on here actually support gun control. I bet it's fewer than you think.
I agree it is not that many. I get angry and lash out at the left on this because it is the left side that desires it. I agree with the left on several things but this issue is a deal breaker with me here or in real life. I have no desire to engage in conversation with anyone who supports anti gun laws and seriously view them as my enemy~
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Not near as old as take it in the ass shitbag left wing assholes endlessly trying to take our guns~
If I had to choose between a ban and universal background checks, I'd vote for the checks.


"Imagine a grandmother who wants to drive her twelve-year-old grandson to Sunday school having to pass a driving test before getting behind the wheel."

Sounds stupid, no?
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If I had to choose between a ban and universal background checks, I'd vote for the checks.


"Imagine a grandmother who wants to drive her twelve-year-old grandson to Sunday school having to pass a driving test before getting behind the wheel."

Sounds stupid, no?
New laws are nothing more that an attempt to gain ground on their ultimate goal of disarmament. I unlike the sheep who think enforcing new laws on the law abiding will make us safer will stand my ground. I was raised with the understanding that I must provide for myself and those under my watch. I grew up understanding I and only I was responsible for my own protection and the protection of those under my watch. I grew up in a very volatile time. I often wonder how many here have been in a race riot, I have been in several. Unlike the news reel I grew up in the Midwest and we had no prejudice against blacks, heck most of us had never even seen one. They started busing in blacks to our schools. When they showed up we were fascinated by them and made an effort to be friends. They were not interested and for some reason they hated us.

They would be hateful to us and showed us to a new style of fighting. One on one was not how they settled fights. They would approach one of us with four or five and jump us. Sadly many of my white friends would be too chickenshit to stand their ground. They thought they could just cry how mean someone was to them. I learned quick that those who ran the school were not going to protect us, Some of us figured out quick that the only answer was to tune these clowns up on our own. Long story short you and nobody else will protect you. Background checks are for one reason and one only, to identify who has guns for later use. So in closing I am a peckerwood from the 217 and you can god damn bet your ass you had to earn that title. If the day every comes that they come for my guns I will sadly ask those I love and no longer can protect to leave and surrender, and on my mothers grave swear those shitbags will take my guns but they will have a shorter roll call at the next morning~
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In effort to aid this Missouri Law, I'd be pleased to meet any of you at the northern boarder and offer $.25 on the original dollar to help you cut your losses, and know that they'll be loved in a good home.
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Hey, I'm here to help friends.

I just couldn't sleep at night knowing that these loving assault weapons might be put down in the pound, and knowing that I can give them a good home should provide their former owners comfort in the transition.

Don't let the man take your guns. Just don't, there is no need.

Don't think of it as selling your beloved guns at a financial loss, due to Cruela Obamaville....think of it as RE-Homing your weapons to a nice, comfortable humidity controlled environment where they will be appreciated. You can even come and visit them once in a while.
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