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Old 02-19-2013, 12:15 AM   Topic Starter
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I need help fast, guys.

I have recently suspected my brother has been into drugs (lost his job, erratic behavior, money troubles, poor hygiene...), and I just found all the evidence I need in his pocket. Two hypodermic needles and heroin (what I presume is Heroin). He is passed out in my parents living room right now. I do not know what the **** I am supposed to do. Our stepdad pretty much despises him for how he treats our mother, and I really do not want to have to tell her this. I also do not want to see him in jail, since that will pretty much ruin his future, and not to mention how it will hurt his chances of getting to have anything to do with his daughter again. I am at a complete loss right now. I have no idea what to do or who to talk to.

I emailed a friend that is a therapist to ask him for information on who to contact and how to go about this. **** this sucks. Anybody here have experience with this at all?? Please help me.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:17 AM   #2
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Call 911 get help for him. He needs help above what you can do for him He will forgive you in time but his life is what matters now.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:19 AM   #3
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Call 911 get help for him. He needs help above what you can do for him He will forgive you in time but his life is what matters now.
****! What happens to him when they get him?
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:20 AM   #4
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****! What happens to him when they get him?
Don't worry about it save his life then take it one day at a time.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:21 AM   #5
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They can get him treatment and you did your part. It's going be up to him to stay clean and sober but at least you can show love for him in support to stop ****ing himself up. It shouldn't be tollerated. Call hot lines to get help
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:23 AM   #6
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Prayers sent stay calm. I'd call the ambulance.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:19 AM   #7
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The fear I have for him is overdosing on that shit & You couldn't handle that no one can when it's family. Get help now. Call somebody.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:22 AM   #8
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This is going to destroy my parents. I'm going to throw him in my car and cdrive him there. I'm ****ing scared
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First just take a deep breath for yourself and keep cool. stay collective with what your doing.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:24 AM   #10
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Here's the rub. You don't need help. He does. You want him to be helped. He does not. You can't fix this problem. He has to fix it. Drug addicts don't want help until they hit rock bottom. The only thing you can do to "help" is push him towards rock bottom. That includes doing things that will be uncomfortable for you, him, your family, and your relationship:
1. You could notify authorities.
2. You could swipe his stash. Tough to get high when you don't have the goods.
3. You could tell your family.
4. You could call 911 and tell them he OD'ed.

You're going to be forced to do something that sucks or do nothing at all and wait for him to destroy his life even more or perhaps even kill somebody or himself. I don't envy you this position but it's probably not your fault and unless you have big brass ones, there's nothing you can do about it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:30 AM   #11
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Here's the rub. You don't need help. He does. You want him to be helped. He does not. You can't fix this problem. He has to fix it. Drug addicts don't want help until they hit rock bottom. The only thing you can do to "help" is push him towards rock bottom. That includes doing things that will be uncomfortable for you, him, your family, and your relationship:
1. You could notify authorities.
2. You could swipe his stash. Tough to get high when you don't have the goods.
3. You could tell your family.
4. You could call 911 and tell them he OD'ed.

You're going to be forced to do something that sucks or do nothing at all and wait for him to destroy his life even more or perhaps even kill somebody or himself. I don't envy you this position but it's probably not your fault and unless you have big brass ones, there's nothing you can do about it.

Exactly this. You have to love him enough to do something that will make him hate you in the short term.

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Old 02-19-2013, 12:37 AM   #12
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Here's the rub. You don't need help. He does. You want him to be helped. He does not. You can't fix this problem. He has to fix it. Drug addicts don't want help until they hit rock bottom. The only thing you can do to "help" is push him towards rock bottom. That includes doing things that will be uncomfortable for you, him, your family, and your relationship:
1. You could notify authorities.
2. You could swipe his stash. Tough to get high when you don't have the goods.
3. You could tell your family.
4. You could call 911 and tell them he OD'ed.

You're going to be forced to do something that sucks or do nothing at all and wait for him to destroy his life even more or perhaps even kill somebody or himself. I don't envy you this position but it's probably not your fault and unless you have big brass ones, there's nothing you can do about it.
I agree with all of this and say that jail could be the best thing for him as it would be consiquences for his actions to learn from and it's not ok to do it. I know many recovering addicts and alcoholics that have been grateful that they went to jail even though they didn't like it at the time it gave them a chance to sober up.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:15 AM   #13
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Here's the rub. You don't need help. He does. You want him to be helped. He does not. You can't fix this problem. He has to fix it. Drug addicts don't want help until they hit rock bottom. The only thing you can do to "help" is push him towards rock bottom. That includes doing things that will be uncomfortable for you, him, your family, and your relationship:
1. You could notify authorities.
2. You could swipe his stash. Tough to get high when you don't have the goods.
3. You could tell your family.
4. You could call 911 and tell them he OD'ed.

You're going to be forced to do something that sucks or do nothing at all and wait for him to destroy his life even more or perhaps even kill somebody or himself. I don't envy you this position but it's probably not your fault and unless you have big brass ones, there's nothing you can do about it.

Not exactly true. You can make a difference RIGHT NOW. While he's passed out you need to get all his stash from him. Next drag him into a closet that you can lock and keep him there until he's dried out. You can cut a small hole in the bottom to slip him some water from time to time and maybe some cheese sticks when he gets hungry. Go ahead and tell your mom what's up so she won't get too concerned about what all the noise is coming from the closet. This will all be over with in three to five days. He will thank you later and you'll have peace of mind that you saved your brothers life.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:22 AM   #14
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Not exactly true. You can make a difference RIGHT NOW. While he's passed out you need to get all his stash from him. Next drag him into a closet that you can lock and keep him there until he's dried out. You can cut a small hole in the bottom to slip him some water from time to time and maybe some cheese sticks when he gets hungry. Go ahead and tell your mom what's up so she won't get too concerned about what all the noise is coming from the closet. This will all be over with in three to five days. He will thank you later and you'll have peace of mind that you saved your brothers life.
No, do not do this, as it would be felony kidnapping and it would ruin YOUR life if for whatever reason he goes to the authorities.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:27 AM   #15
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Not exactly true. You can make a difference RIGHT NOW. While he's passed out you need to get all his stash from him. Next drag him into a closet that you can lock and keep him there until he's dried out. You can cut a small hole in the bottom to slip him some water from time to time and maybe some cheese sticks when he gets hungry. Go ahead and tell your mom what's up so she won't get too concerned about what all the noise is coming from the closet. This will all be over with in three to five days. He will thank you later and you'll have peace of mind that you saved your brothers life.
Hope your joking right? The withdrawel could kill him with out treatment and being safe. Being locked up in a closet could make him freak out and really cause some harm. He needs to detox in an invironment that helps people detox.
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