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Old 05-01-2013, 08:02 PM   Topic Starter
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Why Geno Smith fell in the draft

I've seen a couple other posts about this... but this probably deserves it's own thread considering how many hours we've wasted arguing about the guy. This is the first article I've seen theorizing why Geno fell in the draft. Time will tell whether it's accurate.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ge...183846651.html

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On April 23, Smith, his agents, some family members and several friends gathered for dinner in New York in advance of the draft, a gathering confirmed by a family member. At one point, everyone around the table stood to give a toast to celebrate the evening.

Smith went last, thanking everyone and declaring that entire group his agents included were a "family" that would stay together his entire career, if not the rest of his life, the sources said. Smith, who at one point was expecting to be the No. 1 overall pick and at least a top 10 selection, has big plans for his career. Smith, according to the sources, hopes to emulate players such as Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, putting himself cut above the rest of the quarterback fray.

The problem is that NFL types see a guy who, right now, doesn't understand how to get there.

"His biggest problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know," said a league executive, who spent extensive time assessing Smith before the draft.

"I'm not sure he knows how to take instruction because he pretty much wouldn't listen or talk to our coaches he's talented. He can sling it, he can fit it into tight spots, he can do a lot of things and I think he wants to be good. But you can't tell him anything right now. He's tuned out because he thinks he's got it all down."

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One possible factor in Smith dropping to the second round is a concern about leadership.

"He doesn't have much presence, not much of a leader," said another league executive, who spent a great deal of time studying Smith before the draft. "I don't think he's a bad person, but that's not enough to be a quarterback in this league."

Two sources indicated that when Smith went on some visits to teams, rather than interact with coaches and front-office people, he would spend much of his time on his cell phone. Instead of being engaged with team officials, he would be texting friends or reading Twitter or a number of other distracting activities.

"All these other players who were in there were talking to the coaches, trying to get to know people and he was over there by himself," one of the sources said. "That's not what you want out of your quarterback."

Both sources indicated that Florida State's E.J. Manuel, who was selected ahead of Smith at No. 16 overall by Buffalo, was far more impressive in terms of his personality and maturity.

"Manuel gets it, he gets the whole big picture of what it takes to lead a team," one of the league executives said.

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By Sunday, Smith was being convinced by other friends that it was the fault of his agents that he slipped so much in the draft, according to one of the sources.

"Right now, he's blaming everybody but himself and he has some buddies around him who are telling him that same thing," the source said.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:03 PM   #2
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Geno didn't 'fall' in the draft. He got drafted where he should have...
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:07 PM   #3
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That's a pretty damning article. He was texting friends and reading Twitter when he was supposed to be talking to coaches? WTF?

I'm starting to think Andy Reid and John Dorsey just might be smarter than SNR and Sweet Dick Willie.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:11 PM   #4
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That's a pretty damning article. He was texting friends and reading Twitter when he was supposed to be talking to coaches? WTF?

I'm starting to think Andy Reid and John Dorsey just might be smarter than SNR and Sweet Dick Willie.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.
same here. he's gonna bust
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:15 PM   #5
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same here. he's gonna bust
He will be the next Ryan Leaf waiting to happen. Count on it

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Old 05-01-2013, 08:14 PM   #6
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I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.
Haha

I know, right.

The guy doesn't even have an Arrowhead on his helmet, so he sucks.

Truth is, time and productivity will dictate if it was a mistake or not to pass on him.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:18 PM   #7
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Haha

I know, right.

The guy doesn't even have an Arrowhead on his helmet, so he sucks.
So whats our excuse going to be when he literally blows chunks? What stoy are you going to try to wrap around his failures? Coaching? talent around him?

You have a full on hard on for a QB that has every single sign of being a massive bust, as a second round pick.

But keep acting like his issue is CP because you know they broke this story right?
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:33 PM   #8
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So whats our excuse going to be when he literally blows chunks? What stoy are you going to try to wrap around his failures? Coaching? talent around him?

You have a full on hard on for a QB that has every single sign of being a massive bust, as a second round pick.

But keep acting like his issue is CP because you know they broke this story right?

This. Not sure why people keep making excuses for this guy like he's their first born. From the beginning people have said this guy is essentially Alex Smith with a stronger arm but lesser accuracy. I've never seen what the fuss about and if anything, he was drafted earlier than he rightfully should have been. You take a guy who's not all that great and then throw in the attitude that "he's made it" and you've got yourself a mega bust that will be out of the league in under 4 years.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:20 PM   #9
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That's a pretty damning article. He was texting friends and reading Twitter when he was supposed to be talking to coaches? WTF?

I'm starting to think Andy Reid and John Dorsey just might be smarter than SNR and Sweet Dick Willie.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.
IF and big IF the article is correct then I understand the reluctance to draft him.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:44 PM   #10
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IF and big IF the article is correct then I understand the reluctance to draft him.
Nope. Chief Fan knew more than any GM or NFL front office.
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That's a pretty damning article. He was texting friends and reading Twitter when he was supposed to be talking to coaches? WTF?

I'm starting to think Andy Reid and John Dorsey just might be smarter than SNR and Sweet Dick Willie.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.
It's not that anyone is smarter. It's that there's no possible way for any armchair GM to ever have all of the information that a professional does.

And my biggest complaint is that everyone here was taking their own opinion far, far, FAR too seriously.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:41 PM   #12
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That's a pretty damning article. He was texting friends and reading Twitter when he was supposed to be talking to coaches? WTF?

I'm starting to think Andy Reid and John Dorsey just might be smarter than many people here .

I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:11 PM   #13
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I'm starting to think Andy Reid and John Dorsey just might be smarter than SNR and Sweet Dick Willie.
Wait what? Are you saying that a coach and GM who have played and worked in the game almost their entire lives, have had a track record of success, and are highly respected in the league know more about football than a couple of bitter losers on the Internet? How could that be?
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:26 PM   #14
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Wait what? Are you saying that a coach and GM who have played and worked in the game almost their entire lives, have had a track record of success, and are highly respected in the league know more about football than a couple of bitter losers on the Internet? How could that be?
"Manning Fan". "brady fan". Those are homer names that have merit. Yours? . Yeah, I'm the idiot alright.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:28 PM   #15
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well, kind of, because you werent talking to me.

You were talking to ALEXSMITHDYNASTY. Different guy....
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