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Old 05-10-2013, 07:06 PM   Topic Starter
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Rays pitcher Alex Cobb had 13 Ks in 4.2 IP

However, he's in line to lose on a balk and just got pulled. First time all season a Rays starting pitcher didn't go at least 5 IP
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:07 PM   #2
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This thread probably didn't need to be made.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:07 PM   #3
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Still damn impressive
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:09 PM   #4
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The go ahead run was a batter who reached first on a wild pitch strike out, stole 2nd and 3rd, and then got balked home.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:15 PM   #5
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Not sure how noteworthy this is, but its the first time in Major League history a pitcher had 13 K in less than 5 innings.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:23 PM   #6
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Threw 117 pitches too. That's impressive for 4.2 innings.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:02 AM   #7
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Threw 117 pitches too. That's impressive for 4.2 innings.
Impressive? In a sense.

Yes, he struck out all those batters in under five innings, but he also through nearly 120 pitches, put a lot of unnecessary wear and tear on his arm, and pretty much screwed their bullpen due to his high pitch count and having to be pulled early.

Sometimes it's better to pitch to contact, spot your pitches, and let your defense play behind you. If you happen to rack up some K's along the way, great!

There's a reason the best pitchers in baseball don't typically strike out 15-20 a game . . . . they know how to pitch.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:28 AM   #8
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There's a reason the best pitchers in baseball don't typically strike out 15-20 a game . . . . they know how to pitch.
.. or the reason the best pitchers don't typically strike out 15-20 is because that is extremely difficult to do no matter your approach.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:19 AM   #9
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.. or the reason the best pitchers don't typically strike out 15-20 is because that is extremely difficult to do no matter your approach.
Fair enough. I'll strike typically from the record.


But the point remains the same; use your defense behind you and don't kill your bullpen.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:52 PM   #10
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Strikouts are overrated. Ultimately its jus another out. What difference does it make if its a strikeout or a throw out? Plus, strikeout pitchers tend to throw more pitches obviously.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:35 PM   #11
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Strikouts are overrated. Ultimately its jus another out. What difference does it make if its a strikeout or a throw out? Plus, strikeout pitchers tend to throw more pitches obviously.
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Someone clearly doesn't know about/believe in FIP.
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Someone clearly doesn't know about/believe in FIP.
Or has never had to watch a shitty baseball defense.
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:35 PM   #13
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Strikouts are overrated. Ultimately its jus another out. What difference does it make if its a strikeout or a throw out? Plus, strikeout pitchers tend to throw more pitches obviously.
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Total nonsense and mathematically disproven
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Total nonsense and mathematically disproven
Yep, there is no way to get guys out except for strikeouts.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:12 PM   #15
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Getting an out while a batter doesn't make any contact is sorta huge. Prevents a sacrifice or error.
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