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Old 07-05-2013, 12:59 PM   Topic Starter
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Bush & Cheney Knew About 9/11 Months Before It Happened Says Whistleblower Charged Un

Bush & Cheney Knew About 9/11 Months Before It Happened Says Whistleblower Charged Under Patriot Act

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Old 07-05-2013, 01:01 PM   #2
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I've always contended that I don't necessarily think the government orchestrated it, but I lean heavily to the position that they most likelly knew it was imminent and did nothing to trigger their agenda.
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:05 PM   #3
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I've always contended that I don't necessarily think the government orchestrated it, but I lean heavily to the position that they most likelly knew it was imminent and did nothing to trigger their agenda.
Pretty much the same thing either way.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:10 AM   #4
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Pretty much the same thing either way.
I agree. Just saying I don't think they orchestrated it top to bottom like some 911 conspiracies claim.
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:42 PM   #5
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There were memos warning of an attack that whole summer before, yet those people were not hushed up. Why the special treatment for this "asset?" I can't find any credible person acknowledging that she was an asset (forgive me for not counting "Russia Today" as a credible source).
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:51 PM   #6
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There were memos warning of an attack that whole summer before, yet those people were not hushed up. Why the special treatment for this "asset?" I can't find any credible person acknowledging that she was an asset (forgive me for not counting "Russia Today" as a credible source).
Russia today has done an excellent job in providing us information our govt does not want us to know and their handmaidens in the press won't report.
It's good to look at foreign press sources from time to time. So the reason you haven't heard it from that subjective word "credible" is because what is the "creditable" news in America doesn't want it known. Some of the other whistleblowers have also claimed using proper channels has not clout. So there's come collaboration there. The people at the top in this country today are corrupt.

I forget where I read it before, but I also read about the warnings which was August.
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:56 PM   #7
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Russia today has done an excellent job in providing us information our govt does not want us to know and their handmaidens in the press won't report.

It's good to look at foreign press sources from time to time. So the reason you haven't heard it from that subjective word "credible" is because what is the "creditable" news in America doesn't want it known. Some of the other whistleblowers have also claimed using proper channels has not clout. So there's come collaboration there. The people at the top in this country today are corrupt.

I forget where I read it before, but I also read about the warnings which was August.
Gee, I wonder which times are the times to look? The times when it suits the narrative that you prefer?
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:52 PM   #8
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Russia today has done an excellent job in providing us information our govt does not want us to know and their handmaidens in the press won't report.
It's good to look at foreign press sources from time to time. So the reason you haven't heard it from that subjective word "credible" is because what is the "creditable" news in America doesn't want it known. Some of the other whistleblowers have also claimed using proper channels has not clout. So there's come collaboration there. The people at the top in this country today are corrupt.

I forget where I read it before, but I also read about the warnings which was August.
There has been a wealth of information provided on reports warning of an attack beforehand including documentaries shown on various networks. All supported by people who either currently work in intelligence or worked on it during that time. None of those people were hushed up, made to look like a loon, or forced out that I know of,...why the difference?
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:49 PM   #9
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...and we're being lied to about Iran too.
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:42 PM   #10
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...and we're being lied to about Iran too.
To which lies are you referring?
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:56 PM   #11
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Everyone knows about the PDB, but this is a classic case of revisionism. It's easy to see the warning signs now when you know an attack happened, but you also have to consider the thousands of other estimates, analyses, and predictions that never came to fruition.

Trying to assign blame to 9/11 is the work of a scared fool; it's that same type of fool that uses religion to explain away everything in the world because they are too terrified to acknowledge that there are some things without easily digestible explanations.
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:19 PM   #12
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Everyone knows about the PDB, but this is a classic case of revisionism. It's easy to see the warning signs now when you know an attack happened, but you also have to consider the thousands of other estimates, analyses, and predictions that never came to fruition.

Trying to assign blame to 9/11 is the work of a scared fool; it's that same type of fool that uses religion to explain away everything in the world because they are too terrified to acknowledge that there are some things without easily digestible explanations.
Well said, and I completely agree.
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Everyone knows about the PDB, but this is a classic case of revisionism. It's easy to see the warning signs now when you know an attack happened, but you also have to consider the thousands of other estimates, analyses, and predictions that never came to fruition.

Trying to assign blame to 9/11 is the work of a scared fool; it's that same type of fool that uses religion to explain away everything in the world because they are too terrified to acknowledge that there are some things without easily digestible explanations.
making excuses for a complete systemic breakdown in nat'l security leading to thousands of dead americans is the work of fools.

the borders of passage are still just as open as ever -- see 2013 boston marathon. Hundreds of thousands in nat'l security with over a decade experience in modern security risks, backed by hundreds of billion$ in taxpayer money, and folks like you are still defending the assholes.
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making excuses for a complete systemic breakdown in nat'l security leading to thousands of dead americans is the work of fools.

the borders of passage are still just as open as ever -- see 2013 boston marathon. Hundreds of thousands in nat'l security with over a decade experience in modern security risks, backed by hundreds of billion$ in taxpayer money, and folks like you are still defending the assholes.
If we could only spy more on the American people these tragedies wouldn't happen..oh wait.
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:33 PM   #15
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making excuses for a complete systemic breakdown in nat'l security leading to thousands of dead americans is the work of fools.

the borders of passage are still just as open as ever -- see 2013 boston marathon. Hundreds of thousands in nat'l security with over a decade experience in modern security risks, backed by hundreds of billion$ in taxpayer money, and folks like you are still defending the assholes.
If you want ironclad security against the spectrum of terrorist attacks you are more than welcome to advocate for a police state. Personally, I'll trade a higher risk of a terrorist attack for basic freedoms and an absence of constant surveillance.
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