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Old 08-24-2013, 10:30 AM   Topic Starter
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Whats the timing on Cruise Missiles?

This is gonna happen. You know Obama is gonna hammer some big ones into Syria soon. So whats the timing...Im on Tuesday/Wednesday. Best for News coverage and The administration can claim complete victory before a weekend and the end of Baseball season/Golf TV/NFL start up.
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:36 PM   #2
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Obama not getting involved in Syria!
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:47 PM   #3
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Four soldiers died in Syria while Obama sat in the situation room and laughed! We don't need evidence or a coherent theory. Impeach now!
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:48 PM   #4
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Who cares? It's not about doing anything meaningful or taking a position, it's about looking like you are doing something meaningful without actually taking any political risk.
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:52 PM   #5
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Who cares? It's not about doing anything meaningful or taking a position, it's about looking like you are doing something meaningful without actually taking any political risk.
As if it is possible to do anything, including doing nothing, without it being a political risk. Whiners gonna whine no matter what he does. It's what you and HCF do.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:23 PM   #6
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As if it is possible to do anything, including doing nothing, without it being a political risk. Whiners gonna whine no matter what he does. It's what you and HCF do.
No, I am not in agreement with any sort of military intervention including lobbing a few missiles for the TV cameras.

It's an internal issue in Syria that does not seem to effect the international community at this point, so I don't feel we have any military interest there.

However, we and the rest of the world can express our opinion of what's happening over there by completely isolating Assad's government economically and diplomatically.
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:34 PM   #7
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As if it is possible to do anything, including doing nothing, without it being a political risk. Whiners gonna whine no matter what he does. It's what you and HCF do.
This is Bush's war.
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:20 PM   #8
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I endorse this opinion.
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:07 PM   #9
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This is gonna happen. You know Obama is gonna hammer some big ones into Syria soon.
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:14 PM   #10
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Less than 5 years ago Lebanon was hospitable to Christians, a wonderful tourist spot, and one of the best examples of free society in the ME.

There was a small portion in time the hope was they were one light in the darkness of the ME.

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Old 08-24-2013, 01:31 PM   #11
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Less than 5 years ago Lebanon was hospitable to Christians, a wonderful tourist spot, and one of the best examples of free society in the ME.

There was a small portion in time the hope was they were one light in the darkness of the ME.

You might want to check your timeframe.
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:34 PM   #12
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You might want to check your timeframe.
You're probably right.

That would have been pre-2003.

And me being way off...
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Less than 5 years ago Lebanon was hospitable to Christians, a wonderful tourist spot, and one of the best examples of free society in the ME.

There was a small portion in time the hope was they were one light in the darkness of the ME.

You need a 0 after that 5 but yes Beirut was the Paris of the Middle East.
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:40 AM   #14
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Less than 5 years ago Lebanon was hospitable to Christians, a wonderful tourist spot, and one of the best examples of free society in the ME.

There was a small portion in time the hope was they were one light in the darkness of the ME.


I'm going to defend Rausch's comment here, yes the 5 might be a small a number but honestly it is correct:

1)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...ion_statistics

It is estimated that Christians are still %40 of lebanon's population

2) http://www.lstatic.org/PDF/demographenglish.pdf

In 1932, 53% were Christians



Right now in 2013, Lebanon is the ONLY middle eastern country that has 40% Christians.

They are the last....this is a CURRENT problem, not an old one.

In regards to tourism:


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The tourism industry in Lebanon has been historically important to the local economy and remains to this day to be a major source of revenue for Lebanon.
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Significant private investment is currently being made in the modernization and expansion of this sector and international hotel companies have returned to Lebanon. Casino du Liban, which historically constituted a major tourist destination, reopened in 1996. Lebanon is the only country in the Arab world that offers skiing and related winter sports activities. The largest ski resort in the country has been expanded and modernized. The Government believes that, because of the return of peace and stability to the country and with the development of the necessary infrastructure, tourism will again contribute significantly to Lebanon's economy. Lebanon's tourism industry also relies on the large number of Lebanese living abroad, who return regularly to the country during the summer season.[4]
So , I believe Rausch is correct, that these problems are Post-1996 and CURRENT.....


The Travel Advisory currently has to do with the Spillover from the war in syria:


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The U.S. Embassy in Beirut on Friday reminded U.S. citizens to “avoid all travel to Lebanon due to safety and security concerns,” urging those in the country to “exercise security awareness," after at least 40 people were killed and more than 500 wounded in twin bombings that rocked mosques in Tripoli.
"Although there is no indication that U.S. citizens or interests were targets of those behind these attacks, there is a possibility of public demonstrations in response," the embassy said on its website in a security alert titled “Increase in Sectarian Violence in Lebanon.”
This is not an "old" article...This is from 2 days ago.


Evidence the tourism industry had started to recover:



#of International Tourists arriving in Lebanon and staying at least one night



And then take a look at the Beirut property value chart:



See where the bottom falls out?

Thats not more than 5 years ago.........and the peak coincides with the peak of the tourism industry as well....














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WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. naval forces are moving closer to Syria as President Barack Obama considers military options for responding to the alleged use of chemical weapons by the Assad government. The president emphasized that a quick intervention in the Syrian civil war was problematic, given the international considerations that should precede a military strike.

The White House said the president would meet Saturday with his national security team to consider possible next steps by the United States. Officials say once the facts are clear, Obama will make a decision about how to proceed.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel declined to discuss any specific force movements while saying that Obama had asked the Pentagon to prepare military options for Syria. U.S. defense officials told The Associated Press that the Navy had sent a fourth warship armed with ballistic missiles into the eastern Mediterranean Sea but without immediate orders for any missile launch into Syria.

U.S. Navy ships are capable of a variety of military action, including launching Tomahawk cruise missiles, as they did against Libya in 2011 as part of an international action that led to the overthrow of the Libyan government.
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