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Old 10-30-2013, 12:53 PM   Topic Starter
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Victory for Jamie Oliver in the U.S. as McDonald’s is forced to stop using pink slime

TV chef was disgusted to discover ammonium hydroxide was being used by McDonald's to convert fatty beef offcuts into a beef filler for burgers




'Why would any sensible human being want to put ammonia-filled meat into their children's mouths? asked Jamie Oliver



McDonald's denies its hand had been forced by TV campaign


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-recipe.html
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:55 PM   #2
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:11 PM   #3
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:30 PM   #4
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'Why would any sensible human being want to put ammonia-filled meat into their children's mouths? asked Jamie Oliver


Hopefully he also doesn't eat cheese, baked goods or chocolate because ammonia is used to make those too. It's also naturally in a lot of foods including veggies and milk.
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:53 PM   #5
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Hopefully he also doesn't eat cheese, baked goods or chocolate because ammonia is used to make those too. It's also naturally in a lot of foods including veggies and milk.
Wow. Just wow.

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Old 10-31-2013, 01:22 AM   #6
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Hopefully he also doesn't eat cheese, baked goods or chocolate because ammonia is used to make those too. It's also naturally in a lot of foods including veggies and milk.
In meat its used to kill bacteria and antimicrobial to control pathogens.
This is not used when butchering beef such as beef cuts, but when processing beef sometimes. Typically when beef scraps and parts of the animal that would not be fit for human consumption are included as filler.

It's ammonium hydroxide - not naturally occurring ammonia. The only reason it's being used is to prevent things like trace amounts of fecal matter or other nasty parts of the cow that they use. They won't comment on it and I don't think they still do, but at one point cow bone was part of the filler used in the processed beef for McD's patties. A trusty bone grinder, eventually worked into a consistency of a fine powderlike existence. No label or notice issues as its technically 100% "beef".
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Old 10-31-2013, 11:43 AM   #7
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In meat its used to kill bacteria and antimicrobial to control pathogens.
This is not used when butchering beef such as beef cuts, but when processing beef sometimes. Typically when beef scraps and parts of the animal that would not be fit for human consumption are included as filler.

It's ammonium hydroxide - not naturally occurring ammonia. The only reason it's being used is to prevent things like trace amounts of fecal matter or other nasty parts of the cow that they use. They won't comment on it and I don't think they still do, but at one point cow bone was part of the filler used in the processed beef for McD's patties. A trusty bone grinder, eventually worked into a consistency of a fine powderlike existence. No label or notice issues as its technically 100% "beef".
Excellent post.

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Old 10-31-2013, 11:57 AM   #8
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It's ammonium hydroxide - not naturally occurring ammonia.
Ammonium hydroxide is regular ammonia dissolved into water.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:33 PM   #9
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McD's and other fast food places sucked before, sucked now, and will suck after this. It's just how it is. If you want good food, cook it yourself. Even then, you're taking your chances with all the additives and other bollocks that goes into our food.
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:39 PM   #10
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McD's and other fast food places sucked before, sucked now, and will suck after this. It's just how it is. If you want good food, cook it yourself. Even then, you're taking your chances with all the additives and other bollocks that goes into our food.
I thought McD was good when it first started. Real sugar, good ground beef, etc. Then they changed after opening so many branches.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:40 PM   #11
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Ammonium hydroxide is produced naturally and is present in meat despite any production process at all. It's in just about everything you eat, to some degree.


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Ammonia based compounds are naturally occurring and can be found in every component of a bacon cheeseburger (bun, bacon, cheese, condiments, and beef). Baked goods, including breads will have ranges from 400 to 32,000 ppm (for the sake of illustration, we'll use the low end of the range). Bacon has approximately 48,000 ppm nitrogen (nitrates), with 160 ppm in the form of ammonia. Condiments, relishes, and cheeses have levels up to 8,000 ppm (for the sake of illustration, we'll use 400 ppm for the condiments and 1,000 ppm for American cheese). Between the naturally occurring levels and small amounts used in our food safety system, beef may have about 200 ppm. So, for the illustration, we've taken these amounts and multiplied by the weight of the typical bacon double cheeseburger to show the full picture.

Bacon Cheesburger
Bun - 2 oz = 50 mg (440 ppm)
Bacon - 1 oz = 16 mg (160 ppm)
Condiments – 2 oz = 50 mg (400 ppm)
Cheese – 1.5 oz = 76 mg (813 ppm)
Beef – 3.2 oz = 40 mg (200 ppm)

This is really nothing new. In fact, the presence or use of ammonia in foods has been studied for years. For example, the table below contains information developed in 1973 as part of a study printed in The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
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Ammonium hydroxide is produced naturally and is present in meat despite any production process at all. It's in just about everything you eat, to some degree.
Someone alert Jamie Oliver so he can be further outraged.
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Someone alert Jamie Oliver so he can be further outraged.
Seriously. I know it sounds bad, because people naturally think of a simple bottle of cleaning ammonia under the sink. But it's present in every single bread, dairy, and meat product you buy. And it's in most condiments as well.

Cheese contains the highest concentrations. If you've eaten any cheese lately from anywhere, you've ingested plenty of it. Cheese has 4-5 times the concentration of beef.
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Seriously. I know it sounds bad, because people naturally think of a simple bottle of cleaning ammonia under the sink. But it's present in every single bread, dairy, and meat product you buy. And it's in most condiments as well.

Cheese contains the highest concentrations. If you've eaten any cheese lately from anywhere, you've ingested plenty of it. Cheese has 4-5 times the concentration of beef.
Exactly, because they're all dogshit. Just because something is common, that doesn't make it normal or healthy.
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Exactly, because they're all dogshit. Just because something is common, that doesn't make it normal or healthy.
Do you have any idea why it's included? It greatly reduces bacterial contamination. So... yeah.... it's both normal and healthy.
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