Football Should coaches be allowed to challenge penalties?

**TimBone** · 11-08-2013, 06:45 PM

With all of the extra flags being thrown nowadays for roughing the passer and helmet to helmet hits, should the red challenge flag also be able to be used for penalties?

The refs have been instructed to err on the side of caution, and thats fine, but frequently it's resulted in some some pretty poor judgement calls that are made in real time. These calls could be corrected if the ref had the chance to review it in slow mo.

So, leaving the challenge rules as they are now, and just adding in penalties as a challengeable item, would it be a good idea?

trndobrd · 11-08-2013, 06:55 PM

"Well, here we go again Dan. This is the 37th consecutive defensive snap that that Andy Reid has thrown the red flag challenging the non-call for holding on Tamba Hali."

"I'm telling you Greg, at some point the Chiefs are going to lose a timeout on these challenges."

A Salt Weapon · 11-08-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd

"Well, here we go again Dan. This is the 37th consecutive defensive snap that that Andy Reid has thrown the red flag challenging the non-call for holding on Tamba Hali."

"I'm telling you Greg, at some point the Chiefs are going to lose a timeout on these challenges."

scho63 · 11-08-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd

"Well, here we go again Dan. This is the 37th consecutive defensive snap that that Andy Reid has thrown the red flag challenging the non-call for holding on Tamba Hali."

"I'm telling you Greg, at some point the Chiefs are going to lose a timeout on these challenges."

That roughing the passer call on Flowers was so incredibly bad. I screamed and cursed at the TV in the bar when it was dead silent and everyone looked up stunned, especially the bartenders. I never yell and I'm there every week.

CallMeSquidwad · 11-09-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd

"Well, here we go again Dan. This is the 37th consecutive defensive snap that that Andy Reid has thrown the red flag challenging the non-call for holding on Tamba Hali."

"I'm telling you Greg, at some point the Chiefs are going to lose a timeout on these challenges."

No he was actually using scissors to cut his underarmour on the sidelines during the Raiders game it wasn't those lineman, stand up dudes over there in the bay area..

**007** · 11-08-2013, 07:22 PM

Personally, I would just as soon they lose instant replay altogether.

**Bugeater** · 11-08-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Personally, I would just as soon they lose instant replay altogether.

I am almost to this point as well. I liked it at first when the coach got two challenges a game, but it's gotten to the point where they're reviewing way too damn much. It ****s with the flow of the game.

**morphius** · 11-08-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Personally, I would just as soon they lose instant replay altogether.

Not as bad as the refs are.

**007** · 11-08-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

Not as bad as the refs are.

it was one thing when only a coach could challenge but now we have IR with every single TD and every single turnover. It is out of hand.

**TimBone** · 11-08-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Personally, I would just as soon they lose instant replay altogether.

Whew. I don't know, man. With how bad the refs have been, I don't think we can go back to no replay.

**DaFace** · 11-08-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Personally, I would just as soon they lose instant replay altogether.

I'd be OK with it as well. The "controlling the ball to the ground" is the most damning example of instant replay failure IMO. They can't tell WTF is a catch and what isn't anymore because the rule is so nuanced.

Just call it based on what it looked like on the field and be done with it.

-King- · 11-08-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I'd be OK with it as well. The "controlling the ball to the ground" is the most damning example of instant replay failure IMO. They can't tell WTF is a catch and what isn't anymore because the rule is so nuanced.

Just call it based on what it looked like on the field and be done with it.

That's not an issue with replays, its an issue with the rule.

**DaFace** · 11-08-2013, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

That's not an issue with replays, its an issue with the rule.

Well, my point is that the nuance wouldn't be as hotly-debated since the refs would just get one look at it to make a call.

beach tribe · 11-09-2013, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I'd be OK with it as well. The "controlling the ball to the ground" is the most damning example of instant replay failure IMO. They can't tell WTF is a catch and what isn't anymore because the rule is so nuanced.

Just call it based on what it looked like on the field and be done with it.

I really have yet to see the problem with this one and think they took the guess work out of it.
You control the ball all the way through hitting the ground and every inch of movement caused by your momentum.

By those rules, I have yet to see one gotten wrong.

I'm sure there are some I haven't seen, but the one against us a few weeks ago was not a catch.

And yes I am all for challenging flags, but not no calls.

**TimBone** · 11-09-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I really have yet to see the problem with this one and think they took the guess work out of it.
You control the ball all the way through hitting the ground and every inch of movement caused by your momentum.

By those rules, I have yet to see one gotten wrong.

I'm sure there are some I haven't seen, but the one against us a few weeks ago was not a catch.

And yes I am all for challenging flags, but not no calls.

They got a catch/no catch call wrong in the Seattle/Tampa game just last week.

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