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Old 11-10-2013, 08:56 PM   Topic Starter
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Xs and Os: The Denver Pick Plays
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Very interesting read...long but interesting
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:01 PM   #2
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:02 PM   #3
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:09 PM   #4
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Not sure I would use Dallas's defense as the blueprint on how to beat Denver.
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:07 PM   #6
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Denver seems to be pushing the rules to the extreme and the league appears to be allowing it. As the article notes, other teams getting away with this is a big ? but Manning is obviously going to be allowed to do so.
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:09 PM   #7
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The Chiefs should start incorporating these plays into their offense.

I mean, hell, if they're not going to call it, then might as well take advantage of it.

If they start calling it on KC, the they'll have to start calling it on Denver too. What have we got to lose??


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Old 11-10-2013, 09:31 PM   #12
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The Chiefs should start incorporating these plays into their offense.

I mean, hell, if they're not going to call it, then might as well take advantage of it.

If they start calling it on KC, the they'll have to start calling it on Denver too. What have we got to lose??


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denver could set up a minefield, and a machine gun nest and it would be legal
you every watched line play?


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If I remember correctly, didn't Chiefs get called for this about three times in one game? I guess they aren't as sneaky smooth as the Donkeys.
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If I remember correctly, didn't Chiefs get called for this about three times in one game? I guess they aren't as sneaky smooth as the Donkeys.
Yep. But this is now the bread and butter of the Manning offense so now it's okay....I guess
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Is it illegal? Let's review offensive pass interference from the NFL Rulebook:

There shall be no interference with a forward pass thrown from behind the line.

It is pass interference by either team when any player movement beyond the line of scrimmage significantly hinders the progress of an eligible player of such player’s opportunity to catch the ball. Offensive pass interference rules apply from the time the ball is snapped until the ball is touched. Defensive pass interference rules apply from the time the ball is thrown until the ball is touched.

Actions that constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to the ball being touched.

(b) Initiating contact with a defender by shoving or pushing off thus creating a separation in an attempt to catch a pass.

(c) Driving through a defender who has established a position on the field.
Actions that do not constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:
(a) Incidental contact by a receiver’s hands, arms, or body when both players are competing for the ball or neither player is looking for the ball.
(b) Inadvertent touching of feet when both players are playing the ball or neither player is playing the ball.
(c) Contact that would normally be considered pass interference, but the ball is clearly uncatchable by involved players.
Note 1: If there is any question whether player contact is incidental, the ruling should be no interference.
Note 2: Defensive players have as much right to the path of the ball as eligible offensive players.
Note 3: Pass interference for both teams ends when the pass is touched.
Note 4: There can be no pass interference at or behind the line of scrimmage, but defensive actions such as tackling a receiver can still result in a 5-yard penalty for defensive holding, if accepted.

Take special note of "Note 1" - "If there is any question whether player contact is incidental, the ruling should be no interference."



Also, note that the pick play is basically a legal play if the pass is behind the line of scrimmage. So, these two loopholes keep these picks from ever being called, even if the letter of the law is not followed by the offense.

Remember, this league wants offense and wants games with high levels of drama and excitement. Calling offensive pass interference is not that.

In fact, just to give you the up to date numbers, there have been 77 league games this season and we have seen just 22 offensive pass interference calls (83 defensive pass interference). Eric Decker has been called twice this season, but when nobody ever calls these plays, why not run them? They are nearly impossible to defend. Let's look at the 3 most obvious pick plays on Sunday.
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