Football The much needed wake-the-****-up slap.

Wallcrawler · 11-17-2013, 11:13 PM

Nobody had @Denver as being a win anyway. It doesn't make the Chiefs any less good for losing @Denver than it does when Denver drops one in KC. Denver and KC are tough places for road reams to play.

With the loss, the Chiefs go to 9-1. However, now it is glaringly obvious just how bad the offense needs improvement, and work, in ALL areas. Playcalling, execution, and decisionmaking.

Andy Reid no longer has the "W" to brush off any criticisms about the offensive performance. This offense is quite honestly, a dumpster fire. When 80% of your passes don't go further than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage, that's a fundamental ****ing problem through either scheme, or lack of ability, or both. No offense that has its sights set on a championship runs such a conservative, low production passing attack.

There were shots downfield in this game, yeah. However, they were the first time all season such consistent shots were taken and clearly it is not something that this Chiefs offense is comfortable with, or particularly good at.

This defense is for real. They held an offense that averages 42 points per game to 27, and gave our offense PLENTY of chances to get the lead in this game, including multiple 3 and outs against Manning and also securing a turnover inside the Denver 20 yard line down by only 3 points.

The offense is the weak link. The conservative bullshit has got to go. Its nice to never turn the football over, but it is NOT nice to never score any points. Alex needs to turn it loose, and if he cant produce, move aside.

No risk, no reward. You need look no further than Alex Smith's passing stats, TD/INT in particular to see that.

Reid needs to take a long look in the mirror as a playcaller. He has not done a good job at all this season. Brad Childress has had great success in calling offense in his career in his time with Minnesota, and Doug Pederson is a former Quarterback. Perhaps it is time to give one of these guys a shot and see if the offense doesn't produce a little more, as they would be hard pressed to do worse with an offense that struggles to put up 17 points.

This was as good a time as any for this reality check to happen. How Andy Reid and Alex Smith respond to this will define what this team will ultimately be this season.

**TribalElder** · 11-17-2013, 11:16 PM

Too bad we might have to go back there in January now if we are unlucky

ClevelandBronco · 11-17-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Nobody had @Denver as being a win anyway.

You missed some shit around here this week.

Planetman · 11-17-2013, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

You missed some shit around here this week.

Yeah I gotta agree with that.

GloryDayz · 11-18-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

You missed some shit around here this week.

No shit... Rep....

**notorious** · 11-18-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

No shit...

They were blind homer dipshits that can't think outside of their own reality.

GloryDayz · 11-18-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

They were blind homer dipshits that can't think outside of their own reality.

Again, no shit.. Rep!!!

**TribalElder** · 11-18-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

You missed some shit around here this week.

i will own it. i said we would win by 2 scores and our offense completely failed

i still think we could have done it although we didnt

**Rausch** · 11-17-2013, 11:17 PM

We didn't play our game.

We didn't play to go after him. We didn't pressure him.

We played not to give up the big play.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid...

unlurking · 11-17-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

We didn't play our game.

We didn't play to go after him. We didn't pressure him.

We played not to give up the big play.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid...

Bullshit. Our defense held them to the fewest points all year. Our offense choked.

**Rausch** · 11-17-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking

Bullshit. Our defense held them to the fewest points all year. Our offense choked.

That doesn't matter.

You understand that, right? Holding Denver down doesn't matter if we don't score over 21.

THE DEFENSE HAD TO CREATE POINTS.

HAD TO.

There was absolutely no chance of winning this game without turnovers, sacks, and winning field position...

unlurking · 11-17-2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

That doesn't matter.

You understand that, right? Holding Denver down doesn't matter if we don't score over 21.

THE DEFENSE HAD TO CREATE POINTS.

HAD TO.

There was absolutely no chance of winning this game without turnovers, sacks, and winning field position...

And that's ****ing bullshit to ask the defense to score points because our offense can't. Do you understand the job the offense is supposed to do and the job the defense is supposed to do?!

**Rausch** · 11-17-2013, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking

And that's ****ing bullshit to ask the defense to score points because our offense can't.

It's our only chance to win.

Is it fair for Denver to expect the offense to score 30 every week to win?

No, but they know what they have to do and they do it. They know what they are and that's how they play.

Pants · 11-17-2013, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

That doesn't matter.

You understand that, right? Holding Denver down doesn't matter if we don't score over 21.

THE DEFENSE HAD TO CREATE POINTS.

HAD TO.

There was absolutely no chance of winning this game without turnovers, sacks, and winning field position...

Blitzes don't work on QB's who get rid of the ball in 3 seconds, sorry. 24 points is pretty much the best you can hope for against Denver offense in their house. The D did its job.

Down4Chiefs · 11-17-2013, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking

Bullshit. Our defense held them to the fewest points all year. Our offense choked.

who gives a shit,were the number one defesne,27 points is not a success. But the fact is they did give our offense enough chances to where if they could have scored from the 5 its a one score game at the end.

all I need our offense to do is put about 20 points a game for the rest of the season. how many other teams can score 27 points on us?if you think a bunch of teams can,well this team defense isn't as good as we have all thought.

offense has to perform like this against 99% of the rest of the teams in this league for us to keep winning. Because our d will play better than we ddid tonight against 99% of the league. One team in the league who might be one of the greatest offenses of all time gives us problems and chiefs fans are crying their eyes out. its one ****ing team,and just to add,their qb has often proved hes not the same guy in the playoffs.

Im still thinking superbowl if our offense is finally about to open it up

11-17-2013, 11:13 PM	Topic Starter
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4162912	The much needed wake-the--up slap. Nobody had @Denver as being a win anyway. It doesn't make the Chiefs any less good for losing @Denver than it does when Denver drops one in KC. Denver and KC are tough places for road reams to play. With the loss, the Chiefs go to 9-1. However, now it is glaringly obvious just how bad the offense needs improvement, and work, in ALL areas. Playcalling, execution, and decisionmaking. Andy Reid no longer has the "W" to brush off any criticisms about the offensive performance. This offense is quite honestly, a dumpster fire. When 80% of your passes don't go further than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage, that's a fundamental ****ing problem through either scheme, or lack of ability, or both. No offense that has its sights set on a championship runs such a conservative, low production passing attack. There were shots downfield in this game, yeah. However, they were the first time all season such consistent shots were taken and clearly it is not something that this Chiefs offense is comfortable with, or particularly good at. This defense is for real. They held an offense that averages 42 points per game to 27, and gave our offense PLENTY of chances to get the lead in this game, including multiple 3 and outs against Manning and also securing a turnover inside the Denver 20 yard line down by only 3 points. The offense is the weak link. The conservative bullshit has got to go. Its nice to never turn the football over, but it is NOT nice to never score any points. Alex needs to turn it loose, and if he cant produce, move aside. No risk, no reward. You need look no further than Alex Smith's passing stats, TD/INT in particular to see that. Reid needs to take a long look in the mirror as a playcaller. He has not done a good job at all this season. Brad Childress has had great success in calling offense in his career in his time with Minnesota, and Doug Pederson is a former Quarterback. Perhaps it is time to give one of these guys a shot and see if the offense doesn't produce a little more, as they would be hard pressed to do worse with an offense that struggles to put up 17 points. This was as good a time as any for this reality check to happen. How Andy Reid and Alex Smith respond to this will define what this team will ultimately be this season.
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