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Old 01-21-2014, 06:50 PM   Topic Starter
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Unfortunately, people are going to die in Sochi

There are so many holes in their "Ring of Steel". They think they got this but its so pathetically below first class security for international events that Americans are hiring and bringing private security firms to get them out when the shit hits the fan.

One of the "black widows" (Widows of Muslim men killed by Russia) with access to explosives has been confirmed as already being in Sochi.

Putin is too arrogant to ask for help.
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Old 01-21-2014, 06:51 PM   #2
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Old 01-21-2014, 08:02 PM   #3
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We have offered to help. To give them the information on the hard learned lessons we have learned about security. They said no thanks, we got this.
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Old 01-21-2014, 06:52 PM   #4
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Old 01-21-2014, 08:43 PM   #5
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It means the same guy who let his own soldiers on board the Kursk slowly drown rather than ask Norway or Britain or us for help retrieving the crippled sub - when we all had ships right there and could have saved his men - is too proud to ask for help.
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:56 PM   #6
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It means the same guy who let his own soldiers on board the Kursk slowly drown rather than ask Norway or Britain or us for help retrieving the crippled sub - when we all had ships right there and could have saved his men - is too proud to ask for help.
You stole my thunder.
Actually, he didn't need to ask for help. It was offered several times and he refused.


The folks on here who admire Putin while also thinking Obama "let" those folks die at Benghazi must be struggling with this.
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:52 AM   #7
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It means the same guy who let his own soldiers on board the Kursk slowly drown rather than ask Norway or Britain or us for help retrieving the crippled sub - when we all had ships right there and could have saved his men - is too proud to ask for help.
If I'm not mistaken, they found after raising the ship that they all had died within a couple of hours.

*Edit, the latest they can verify anyone was alive was 4 hours after explosion
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:05 AM   #8
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It means the same guy who let his own soldiers on board the Kursk slowly drown rather than ask Norway or Britain or us for help retrieving the crippled sub - when we all had ships right there and could have saved his men - is too proud to ask for help.
I've never understood why the surviving crew didn't use the escape trunk (if there was one accessible).
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:08 PM   #9
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I've never understood why the surviving crew didn't use the escape trunk (if there was one accessible).
Its all quite foggy, but I think they were trapped in the wrong end of the sub.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:09 PM   #10
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Putin will not ask for help because he is arrogant


did that help any?
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:05 PM   #13
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Good idea for most situations, but I'll defer to BRC on this.

But really, who knows? It just takes one determined nut. Frankly, I'm surprised major incidents don't happen more often. At the Olympics, it doesn't need to take place inside the main stadium. There are so many venues with large groups of people. One incident in one place would be a huge disruption.
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Good idea for most situations, but I'll defer to BRC on this.

But really, who knows? It just takes one determined nut. Frankly, I'm surprised major incidents don't happen more often. At the Olympics, it doesn't need to take place inside the main stadium. There are so many venues with large groups of people. One incident in one place would be a huge disruption.
One determined nut can do damage but not a lot of damage. Try to set off Fireworks in time square and lock your keys in the car etc.

If that one determined nut has support form like minded individuals with money, look out. Thats the ones we have to be afraid of, not the lone nut. We can't stop the lone nut every time.

We just had a chemical spill. 100's of thousands without water. That was just greedy coroperations. What if it had been terriosts that blew a hole in tank? Or the one that happen in Arkansas? Would we not be up in arms? What if Newtown was terriosts instead of a lone nut?

Terriosm isn't just about a death toll. It's actually a small part. The Israeli's learned this a long time ago. A terriosts blows up a cafe or bus. As soon as the police tape comes down they flood that bus line or cafe area. A big **** you. We are not scared.
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One determined nut can do damage but not a lot of damage. Try to set off Fireworks in time square and lock your keys in the car etc.

If that one determined nut has support form like minded individuals with money, look out. Thats the ones we have to be afraid of, not the lone nut. We can't stop the lone nut every time.

We just had a chemical spill. 100's of thousands without water. That was just greedy coroperations. What if it had been terriosts that blew a hole in tank? Or the one that happen in Arkansas? Would we not be up in arms? What if Newtown was terriosts instead of a lone nut?

Terriosm isn't just about a death toll. It's actually a small part. The Israeli's learned this a long time ago. A terriosts blows up a cafe or bus. As soon as the police tape comes down they flood that bus line or cafe area. A big **** you. We are not scared.
Are you just making that up or did you hear it in your liberal media bubble?
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