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Old 02-26-2014, 11:21 AM   Topic Starter
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Forbes on Obama's disdain for the Constitution

Obama's Disdain For The Constitution Means We Risk Losing Our Republic

By M. Northrop Buechner

Since President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law, he has changed it five times. Most notably, he suspended the employer mandate last summer. This is widely known, but almost no one seems to have grasped its significance.

The Constitution authorizes the President to propose and veto legislation. It does not authorize him to change existing laws. The changes Mr. Obama ordered in Obamacare, therefore, are unconstitutional. This means that he does not accept some of the limitations that the Constitution places on his actions. We cannot know at this point what limitations, if any, he does accept.

By changing the law based solely on his wish, Mr. Obama acted on the principle that the President can rewrite laws and—since this is a principle—not just this law, but any law. After the crash of Obamacare, many Congressmen have implored the President to change the individual mandate the same way he had changed the employer mandate, that is, to violate the Constitution again.

The main responsibility the Constitution assigns to the President is to faithfully execute the Laws. If the President rejects this job, if instead he decides he can change or ignore laws he does not like, then what?

The time will come when Congress passes a law and the President ignores it. Or he may choose to enforce some parts and ignore others (as Mr. Obama is doing now). Or he may not wait for Congress and issue a decree (something Mr. Obama has done and has threatened to do again).

Mr. Obama has not been shy about pointing out his path. He has repeatedly made clear that he intends to act on his own authority. “I have the power and I will use it in defense of the middle class,” he has said. “We’re going to do everything we can, wherever we can, with or without Congress.” There are a number of names for the system Mr. Obama envisions, but representative government is not one of them.

If the President can ignore the laws passed by Congress, of what use is Congress? The President can do whatever he chooses. Congress can stand by and observe. Perhaps they might applaud or jeer. But in terms of political power, Congress will be irrelevant. Probably, it will become a kind of rubber-stamp or debating society. There are many such faux congresses in tyrannies throughout history and around the globe.

Mr. Obama has equal contempt for the Supreme Court. In an act of overbearing hubris, he excoriated Supreme Court Justices sitting helplessly before him during the 2010 State of the Union address—Justices who had not expected to be denounced and who were prevented by the occasion from defending themselves. Mr. Obama condemned them for restoring freedom of speech to corporations and unions.

Ignoring two centuries of practice, President Obama made four recess appointments in January 2012, when the Senate was not in recess. Three courts have found that his appointments were unconstitutional, and the Supreme Court has agreed to take up the case. If the Supreme Court finds against him, what will Mr. Obama do?

We can get a hint by looking at how other parts of his Administration have dealt with Court decisions they did not like.

The Attorney General’s Office is the branch of government charged with enforcing federal laws. After the Supreme Court struck down the key provision of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, Attorney General Holder announced that he would use other provisions of the act to get around the Court’s decision.

The Supreme Court has defined the standard for sexual harassment as “severe, pervasive, and objectively offensive” behavior to a “reasonable person.” In open defiance of that ruling, the Obama Department of Education has declared a new definition of sexual harassment for colleges, that is, “any unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature,” including “verbal conduct,” even if it is not objectively offensive—thus reinforcing the reign of terror over sex on college campuses. If a young man’s request for a date turns out to be unwelcome, he is guilty of sexual harassment by definition.

The lack of respect for the Supreme Court by the Obama administration is manifest. They feel bound by the Court’s decisions only if they agree with them. If they disagree, it is deuces wild; they will embrace any fiction that nullifies the Court’s decision.

The direction in which Mr. Obama is taking us would make possible the following scenario. A Republican Congress is elected and repeals Obamacare over a Democratic President’s veto. The President refuses to enforce the repeal. The Supreme Court rules that the President’s refusal is unconstitutional. The President denounces that ruling and refuses to be bound by it.

If the President persists in rejecting all authority other than his own, the denouement would depend on the side taken by the Armed Forces. Whatever side that was, our national self-esteem would be unlikely to recover from the blow of finding that we are living in a banana republic.

The shocking fact is that our whole system of representative government depends on it being led by an individual who believes in it; who thinks it is valuable; who believes that a government dedicated to the protection of individual rights is a noble ideal. What if he does not?

Mr. Obama is moving our government away from its traditional system of checks and balances and toward the one-man-rule that dominates third world countries. He has said that he wants a fair country—implying that, as it stands, the United States is not a fair country—an unprecedented calumny committed against a country by its own leader.

What country does he think is more fair than the United States? He has three long years left in which to turn us into a fair country. Where does he intend to take us?

Mr. Obama got his conception of a fair country from his teachers. A fair country is an unfree country because it is regimented to prevent anyone from rising too high. Their ideal is egalitarianism, the notion that no one should be any better, higher, or richer than anyone else. Combined with a dollop of totalitarianism, egalitarianism has replaced communism as the dominant ideal in our most prestigious universities. Mr. Obama and his colleagues are the product of those universities, and they have their marching orders.

The most important point is that Mr. Obama does not consider himself bound by the Constitution. He could not have made that more clear. He has drawn a line in the concrete and we cannot ignore it.

Those who currently hold political office, and who want to keep our system of government, need to act now. Surely, rejection of the Constitution is grounds for impeachment and charges should be filed. In addition, there are many other actions that Congressmen can and should take—actions that will tell Mr. Obama that we have seen where he is going and we will not let our country go without a fight.

At the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Benjamin Franklin was asked what form of government had been created. “A republic,” he replied, “if you can keep it.”

We are losing it. If Mr. Obama’s reach for unprecedented power is not stopped, that will be the end. Everyone who values his life and liberty should find some way to say “No!” “Not now!” “Not yet!” “Not ever!”

M. Northrup Buechner is Associate Professor of Economics at St. John’s University, New York.

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Old 02-26-2014, 11:32 AM   #2
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Jesus this is the most vague piece of crap I've ever read. ZOMG something was worded differently. Followed by 5 paragraphs of meaningless ad hominems like this:

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If the President persists in rejecting all authority other than his own, the denouement would depend on the side taken by the Armed Forces. Whatever side that was, our national self-esteem would be unlikely to recover from the blow of finding that we are living in a banana republic.
Obama has about average executive orders compared to past presidents. Did I just blow your mind?
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:45 AM   #3
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Jesus this is the most vague piece of crap I've ever read. ZOMG something was worded differently. Followed by 5 paragraphs of meaningless ad hominems like this:



Obama has about average executive orders compared to past presidents. Did I just blow your mind?
I believe the question isn't about the actual number compared to previous POTUS, but rather the content.
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:14 PM   #4
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I believe the question isn't about the actual number compared to previous POTUS, but rather the content.
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:10 PM   #5
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I believe the question isn't about the actual number compared to previous POTUS, but rather the content.
Great - so please give specific examples where Obama's executive order content is out of line with previous administrations.
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:14 PM   #6
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Great - so please give specific examples where Obama's executive order content is out of line with previous administrations.
Some were posted by me in earlier threads on this...not too long ago.

Changing the work requirement on welfare is one.
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:16 PM   #7
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Great - so please give specific examples where Obama's executive order content is out of line with previous administrations.
Don't be so lazy and read the OP. It has a few examples. You'll never get the truth if you are too lazy to seek it. Propaganda is everywhere and it's all you can eat. You need to back away from the buffet.
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:31 PM   #8
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Jesus this is the most vague piece of crap I've ever read. ZOMG something was worded differently. Followed by 5 paragraphs of meaningless ad hominems like this:



Obama has about average executive orders compared to past presidents. Did I just blow your mind?
Neato, now when people bitch about Citizens United or Shelby County, I can just say "This Supreme Court has issued about average decisions compared to past Courts. Did I just blow your mind?"
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:53 PM   #9
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Jesus this is the most vague piece of crap I've ever read. ZOMG something was worded differently. Followed by 5 paragraphs of meaningless ad hominems like this:



Obama has about average executive orders compared to past presidents. Did I just blow your mind?
Average in what way? If you're talking about the number of orders, it has no relevance. What matters is what they say. A single executive order could be worse than every one of the orders of the most prolific POTUS.

Edit: I see Donger has already pointed this out.
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Average in what way? If you're talking about the number of orders, it has no relevance. What matters is what they say. A single executive order could be worse than every one of the orders of the most prolific POTUS.

Edit: I see Donger has already pointed this out.
Yep - and again not one of you has even tried to point to one specific Obama "breach of the consitution" to examine the content of. I had to do it for you - and showed there's a very good argument that the delays of part of Obamacare are nothing out of the ordinary.

And just huge lol at the recess appointment thing.

You all really should stop getting all your information from propaganda outlets disguised as news. There's a reason why all of these Obama=tyrant editorials are bereft of actual examples and have paragraph after paragraph of non-specific emotional appeal. Nothing Obama is doing is actually that out of the ordinary. The Forbes article is just a rewrite of a WSJ op-ed piece from over a year ago.
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Yep - and again not one of you has even tried to point to one specific Obama "breach of the consitution" to examine the content of. I had to do it for you - and showed there's a very good argument that the delays of part of Obamacare are nothing out of the ordinary.

And just huge lol at the recess appointment thing.

You all really should stop getting all your information from propaganda outlets disguised as news. There's a reason why all of these Obama=tyrant editorials are bereft of actual examples and have paragraph after paragraph of non-specific emotional appeal. Nothing Obama is doing is actually that out of the ordinary. The Forbes article is just a rewrite of a WSJ op-ed piece from over a year ago.
Now you're trying to change the subject. Your executive order defense was completely irrelevant and you're wrong on the recess appointment issue. I think you'd better examine your own bubble.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:35 AM   #12
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It's really pretty simple. The Obama regime does not recognize separation of powers as it's been historically interpreted. They re-write laws that the legislative branch has written, they pretend as if others don't exist; as stated above they embrace any fiction to throw off court decisions that don't please them.

Representative government is under an uplifted knife with all the precedents they are setting.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:49 AM   #13
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It's really pretty simple. The Obama regime does not recognize separation of powers as it's been historically interpreted. They re-write laws that the legislative branch has written, they pretend as if others don't exist; as stated above they embrace any fiction to throw off court decisions that don't please them.

Representative government is under an uplifted knife with all the precedents they are setting.

They realize 1/2 the country won't listen to a word they say so they don't go through the pretenses of even acting like they care about them. The 1/2 that does like him? Wouldn't care about laws anyway.
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Please provide specific examples of how Obama's executive decisions constitute an unprecedented abuse of power compared to past presidents. Are you well versed on the nature of executive decisions of past presidents or are you just reacting to right-wing scare-mongering? Every time I read one of these articles they have a couple vague examples and 15 paragraphs of emotional propaganda. Forbes is a complete joke at this point.
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