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Old 03-13-2014, 02:15 PM   Topic Starter
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1 Houston Texans- Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
2 St. Louis Rams- Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
3 Jacksonville Jaguars- Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
4 Cleveland Browns- Blake Bortles, QB, UCF
5 Oakland Raiders- Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
6 Atlanta Falcons- Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
8 Minnesota Vikings- Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
9 Buffalo Bills- Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
10 Detroit Lions- Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
11 Tennessee Titans- Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
12 New York Giants -Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina
13 St. Louis Rams- Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
14 Chicago Bears- Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
15 Pittsburgh Steelers- Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma St.
16 Dallas Cowboys- Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida St.
17 Baltimore Ravens- Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon St.
18 New York Jets- Odell Beckham, WR, LSU
19 Miami Dolphins- Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame
20 Arizona Cardinals- Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan St.
21 Green Bay Packers- C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama
22 Philadelphia Eagles- Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville

23 Kansas City Chiefs- Marqise Lee, WR, USC
Analysis: The Chiefs are going to be a good defense again in 2014 if they stay healthy, but there's still uncertainty on the offensive side of the ball, and while you can question the ceiling of Alex Smith at this point in his career, the Chiefs feel they can win with him and also won't be finding a better solution at this stage in the draft. But they can find Smith some help, and that's Lee, who brings a lot of refinement as a route runner and the ability to turn a short catch into a big play. And if he goes this low, the chip on his shoulder could also help.

24 Cincinnati Bengals- Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio St.
25 San Diego Chargers- Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio St.
26 Cleveland Browns- Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida St.
27 New Orleans Saints- Dee Ford, OLB, Auburn
28 Carolina Panthers- Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
29 New England Patriots- Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
30 San Francisco 49ers- Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
31 Denver Broncos- Chris Borland, LB, Wisconsin
32 Seattle Seahawks- Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame

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Old 03-13-2014, 02:17 PM   #2
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"The Chiefs are going to be a good defense again in 2014"

...they are? They got their shit pushed in for 1/2 of the season, and embarrassed in the playoffs.
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Old 03-13-2014, 02:19 PM   #3
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"The Chiefs are going to be a good defense again in 2014"

...they are? They got their shit pushed in for 1/2 of the season, and embarrassed in the playoffs.
It take Kiper 9 weeks to get his hair just right, so he didn't see anything past midseason.
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:14 PM   #4
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It take Kiper 9 weeks to get his hair just right, so he didn't see anything past midseason.

....I wish I could see Kiper Sr.
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:57 PM   #5
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"The Chiefs are going to be a good defense again in 2014"

...they are? They got their shit pushed in for 1/2 of the season, and embarrassed in the playoffs.
Lets see:::: Berry, Johnson, Flowers,Poe, Hali and Houston. Yep I do believe half our defense were probowlers.

Coaching was our ****ing problem. We have a solid defense.
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:31 PM   #6
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Lets see:::: Berry, Johnson, Flowers,Poe, Hali and Houston. Yep I do believe half our defense were probowlers.

Coaching was our ****ing problem. We have a solid defense.
We were just missing either 1 good slot guy or a solid and instinctive FS.

Either one of those would have stopped the damn bleeding against the fracking Colts and Broncos.
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Coaching was our ****ing problem. We have a solid defense.
We sure did change that...Oh wait.
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Lets see:::: Berry, Johnson, Flowers,Poe, Hali and Houston. Yep I do believe half our defense were probowlers.

Coaching was our ****ing problem. We have a solid defense.
I was approaching from the perspective of the "Defense" as a whole; players, coaches, scheme etc. No doubt we have some killer parts, but the coaching killed us for sure.
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Old 04-19-2014, 07:08 AM   #9
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Lets see:::: Berry, Johnson, Flowers,Poe, Hali and Houston. Yep I do believe half our defense were probowlers.

Coaching was our ****ing problem. We have a solid defense.
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I was approaching from the perspective of the "Defense" as a whole; players, coaches, scheme etc. No doubt we have some killer parts, but the coaching killed us for sure.
I keep asking you dumbasses to tell me what exactly would you have Sutton do?

I don't give a rat's ass about Sutton, so this has no agenda.

The overall lack of talent at safety and ILB, no pass rush option at DE, lack of depth at OLB, and a vet corner who historically struggles in zone, and a rookie with only a couple of years of college experience at the position, and the overall lack of versatility limits adjustments.

So tell me, just what should he have done?
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:21 PM   #10
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I keep asking you dumbasses to tell me what exactly would you have Sutton do?

I don't give a rat's ass about Sutton, so this has no agenda.

The overall lack of talent at safety and ILB, no pass rush option at DE, lack of depth at OLB, and a vet corner who historically struggles in zone, and a rookie with only a couple of years of college experience at the position, and the overall lack of versatility limits adjustments.

So tell me, just what should he have done?
Everyone is a dumbass... lol...

Anyway, what I saw was a lack of creativity in blitz schemes, and this was also a problem with Crennel. Every team in the NFL knows Hali is coming every play and Justin Houston is coming most of the time. The ILBs and safeties rarely blitz. A 3-4 wasn't designed to be this way, but the Chiefs throw the same shit at a team week after week hoping it somehow works. I'd like to see more variation where and when the blitzes come. I want to see both OLBs dropping into coverage with some regularity, not one less than half the time. I want to see both ILBs being blitzed at various times. I want to see overload blitzes, etc. The best pressure, the quickest pressure, comes up the middle. The Chiefs have to do more to disrupt quarterbacks up the middle, yet they don't. I don't give anyone a pass in the organization by saying the pieces weren't there.

As for coverage, I don't think there is much the Chiefs could have done a whole lot differently. What I think is more the problem is that teams don't have to guess where pressure is coming from versus where the coverage areas will be. They know where pressure is coming from and they know what areas will be open, and that is the problem in a nutshell. On top of that, the entire secondary aside from Berry played pretty shitty last year, that doesn't help anything.
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I keep asking you dumbasses to tell me what exactly would you have Sutton do?

I don't give a rat's ass about Sutton, so this has no agenda.

The overall lack of talent at safety and ILB, no pass rush option at DE, lack of depth at OLB, and a vet corner who historically struggles in zone, and a rookie with only a couple of years of college experience at the position, and the overall lack of versatility limits adjustments.

So tell me, just what should he have done?
Rotate the DL and front 7 a little more to get some fresh legs on the field.
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"The Chiefs are going to be a good defense again in 2014"

...they are? They got their shit pushed in for 1/2 of the season, and embarrassed in the playoffs.
lol you think these retard "analysts" actually watch our games?
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Old 03-13-2014, 02:20 PM   #13
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I don't think that would be a shocker.

In fact, I'm expecting it. (Ravens and Jets.)
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