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Old 04-27-2014, 09:12 AM   Topic Starter
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23. Kansas City Chiefs

OLB Dee Ford, Auburn

Natural 3-4 pass-rusher who can help Houston and Hali.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:27 AM   #2
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:45 AM   #3
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Pass rush isn't a priority.


We have Bowe, Avery and Hemmingway. Let's not forget Dressler too. Our WR corps are god awful. We should be eyeing a WR this entire time with our first pick.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:50 AM   #4
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We have Bowe, Avery and Hemmingway. Let's not forget Dressler too. Our WR corps are god awful. We should be eyeing a WR this entire time with our first pick.
Wide receivers improve significantly in their second year in Reids system, and our offense wasn't the problem towards the end of the season...

See: 2013 Colts vs Chiefs Playoff Game
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:50 AM   #5
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Pass rush isn't a priority.


We have Bowe, Avery and Hemmingway. Let's not forget Dressler too. Our WR corps are god awful. We should be eyeing a WR this entire time with our first pick.
Pass rush is a MAJOR priority!! Pass rush helps our secondary. We need it badly!!
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Old 04-29-2014, 11:40 PM   #6
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Pass rush is a MAJOR priority!! Pass rush helps our secondary. We need it badly!!
Yep ! See Seattle Thomas and Sherman for as good as they are wouldn't be all world if that pass rush weren't there.
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Old 04-29-2014, 11:42 PM   #7
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Yep ! See Seattle Thomas and Sherman for as good as they are wouldn't be all world if that pass rush weren't there.
Anybody ever consider that it might have been more scheme oriented versus just having a lot of dudes who kick major ass in rushing the passer?

I mean, when a guy like Cliff Avril looks all-world as a pass rush specialist, you really think that it's because of Cliff Avril's super pass rush talent versus the defensive scheme?

Hmmm?
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Yep ! See Seattle Thomas and Sherman for as good as they are wouldn't be all world if that pass rush weren't there.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:07 AM   #9
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Pass rush isn't a priority.


We have Bowe, Avery and Hemmingway. Let's not forget Dressler too. Our WR corps are god awful. We should be eyeing a WR this entire time with our first pick.
Don't forget Jenkins and Williams.....Either way that crew did better than our pass rush did the second half of the season and in the playoff game.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:21 AM   #10
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Don't forget Jenkins and Williams.....Either way that crew did better than our pass rush did the second half of the season and in the playoff game.
Blame Bob Sutton. He totally played conservative against Indy. Sutton is the reason why we failed. If Alex Smith had more weapons we could have put up more points in the 2nd half. We can give Sutton all the help in the world, but can he utilize his players?
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:32 AM   #11
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Blame Bob Sutton. He totally played conservative against Indy. Sutton is the reason why we failed. If Alex Smith had more weapons we could have put up more points in the 2nd half. We can give Sutton all the help in the world, but can he utilize his players?
I do blame Bob Sutton to a large degree. There are obvious issues aside from Sutton though. We could not get much pressure at all once Houston and Hali got injured which exposed our secondary. We need a pass rusher much worse than WR. Any offense takes longer to gel and work better. The offense should improve some just because of that. It also takes a WR a couple of years to impact the game as much as most other positions.
We also have to replace Hali and have leverage against Houston. Dee Ford accomplishes all of those things.
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We have Bowe, Avery and Hemmingway. Let's not forget Dressler too. Our WR corps are god awful. We should be eyeing a WR this entire time with our first pick.

True and that was even the case BEFORE they made new holes during free agency.
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Hali was totally spent the second half of the season and a total nonfactor. He's also getting nicked up a bit. He's got some serious wear on the tread. I'd let him go after this year so yes, I agree: go with pass rush.
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I don't like Dee Ford. One trick pony and that one trick isn't even amazing.

I'd much rather Ealy (if there), Lawrence, Attaouchu, Bradford or Reilly if they go for a 3-4 OLB at 23.
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I don't like Dee Ford. One trick pony and that one trick isn't even amazing.

I'd much rather Ealy (if there), Lawrence, Attaouchu, Bradford or Reilly if they go for a 3-4 OLB at 23.
It would be extremely stupid to take Reilly at 23 or anywhere about the 3rd or 4th round. Dude has ACL issues and is 26 years old. He may only have a 4 to 5 year window to even play in the league. One injury and he will miss an entire season. His value is very low.
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